Using Obsidian for academic writing and creativity

Thinking in public
17 Jun 202342:44

Summary

TLDR本次对话探讨了Obsidian这一知识管理工具的使用心得。参与者分享了他们如何通过Obsidian的链接和图谱功能来整理和激发创意,以及如何将其应用于学术写作和日常笔记。同时,讨论了Obsidian的组织结构,包括将笔记分为不同的vaults以区分日常笔记、通用想法和写作项目。此外,还涉及了Obsidian的开源性质和Markdown语言的使用,以及如何将Obsidian与其他工具如Zotero结合使用以提高工作效率。

Takeaways

  • 📚 Obsidian 是一个笔记和知识管理工具,用户可以通过它来组织、链接和检索信息。
  • 🔗 用户可以创建不同的vaults(库)来区分日常笔记、通用想法和写作项目等不同类型的内容。
  • 💡 Obsidian 通过链接和图谱展示帮助用户发现笔记之间的关系,促进创意和灵感的产生。
  • 📈 用户提到使用Obsidian后感觉更有创意,尽管这可能与使用工具本身或个人投入时间思考有关。
  • 📝 在Obsidian中,笔记的链接并不总是必要的,有时需要有选择性地建立和跟随链接。
  • 🔄 用户会定期回顾和编辑笔记,以确保信息的相关性和链接的准确性。
  • 📊 Obsidian 适合处理非结构化的思考,如脑海中跳跃的想法和概念,而不太适合结构化文档的编写。
  • 🖋️ 用户可以将Obsidian用作纯文本或Markdown编辑器,用于撰写需要结构化和层次性较少的文档。
  • 🗂️ 用户提到Obsidian不是开源软件,但它承诺将始终保持免费,并且笔记存储在本地计算机上。
  • 🔄 用户通过Obsidian进行跨设备笔记同步,尽管Obsidian也提供了付费的同步服务。
  • 🎯 用户将Obsidian视为解决长期知识管理需求的工具,尽管它的实际效用可能取决于个人习惯和工作流程。

Q & A

  • Obsidian的主要用途是什么?

    -Obsidian主要用于创建、管理和链接笔记,它能够帮助用户构建知识体系,促进创意产生和信息整合。

  • 使用Obsidian时,如何避免信息过载?

    -为了避免信息过载,用户应该有意地筛选和连接相关笔记,而不是随机跟随所有链接。同时,可以利用Obsidian的标签和搜索功能来快速找到所需信息。

  • 在Obsidian中,vault的概念是什么?

    -Vault在Obsidian中类似于文件夹,它是一组笔记的集合,可以是独立的,也可以与其他vaults连接。用户可以根据自己的需求创建不同的vaults来组织笔记。

  • Obsidian如何处理创意和写作之间的关系?

    -Obsidian允许用户在不同的vaults中分别进行创意笔记的生成和写作。例如,用户可以在commonplace vault中收集创意,然后在writing vault中专注于写作,通过链接和搜索功能在两者之间切换和引用。

  • Obsidian中的笔记链接是如何帮助用户思考的?

    -Obsidian中的笔记链接可以激发用户的联想和创意,通过链接到相关笔记,用户可以在写作或思考时发现新的视角和想法,从而促进更深层次的思考和理解。

  • 用户应该如何组织和使用Obsidian中的笔记?

    -用户应该根据自己的需求和习惯来组织笔记。可以创建不同的vaults来区分日常笔记、创意笔记和写作笔记。同时,通过添加标签和链接,用户可以构建一个个人化的知识网络,以便于未来的检索和使用。

  • Obsidian是否适合处理结构化文档,如报告或学术论文?

    -虽然Obsidian主要用于非结构化的创意思考和笔记管理,但它也可以用于处理结构化文档。用户可以利用文件夹和笔记之间的链接来进行文档的组织和引用,但可能需要额外的整理工作以满足特定格式的要求。

  • Obsidian的开源性质对用户有什么好处?

    -Obsidian虽然不是完全开源的,但承诺将一直保持免费使用。这意味着用户可以在本地计算机上存储和编辑所有笔记,而不必担心数据的隐私和安全问题。同时,它的markdown语言基础使得笔记可以在其他支持markdown的平台上使用。

  • 用户应该如何处理Obsidian中的大量笔记?

    -用户应该定期审查和整理笔记,删除不再相关的内容,合并相似的笔记,并确保链接的有效性。通过这种方式,用户可以保持笔记库的清晰和有用性,同时也可以提高未来检索和使用的效率。

  • Obsidian如何帮助用户提高工作效率?

    -Obsidian通过提供一个灵活的笔记和知识管理平台,帮助用户捕捉和组织想法、信息和任务。用户可以利用Obsidian的链接、搜索和模板功能来优化工作流程,提高工作效率。

  • 用户在使用Obsidian时应该注意哪些问题?

    -用户在使用Obsidian时应该注意避免创建过多的无效链接,保持笔记的清晰和有用性,定期审查和整理笔记库,并且根据个人需求合理地组织vaults和笔记,以最大化Obsidian的效用。

Outlines

00:00

📝 探讨Obsidian的使用方法和价值

本段落讨论了Obsidian的初步印象和使用背景,提到了Obsidian的创意部分,如写笔记、建立链接和构建想法矩阵。同时,提出了关于Obsidian使用的一个关键问题,即如何将复杂的链接和节点转换为有用的输出,例如报告或书籍。此外,还探讨了如何通过YouTube等渠道了解Obsidian,并讨论了Obsidian中的vaults概念,以及如何使用它们来组织不同类型的笔记和想法。

05:00

🖋️ 写作与笔记的分离:Obsidian中的vaults应用

这一段深入探讨了如何在Obsidian中使用不同的vaults来分隔写作和想法生成的过程。介绍了日常笔记vault、通用想法vault和写作vault的概念,并讨论了如何在写作时从想法vault中提取灵感。此外,还提到了如何使用Obsidian的链接和标签功能来提高写作效率,并探讨了Obsidian在学术研究和文献管理中的潜在应用。

10:00

🔍 在Obsidian中寻找创意与连接

本段落讨论了如何在Obsidian中通过链接和相关文本功能来寻找创意和灵感。描述了在写作过程中如何利用Obsidian的链接来探索不同的想法,并通过这些连接来增强写作内容。同时,还提到了Obsidian的笔记编辑和链接管理过程,以及如何通过笔记之间的链接来发现新的思考方向。

15:05

📚 管理和维护Obsidian笔记

这一段讨论了在Obsidian中如何管理和维护笔记,包括如何编辑、适应和精简笔记内容。介绍了在Obsidian中使用不同vaults的好处,以及如何通过标签和搜索功能来发现和利用笔记。此外,还探讨了Obsidian的开源性和本地存储的特点,以及如何通过Markdown语言来编辑和组织笔记。

20:06

🤖 机器人适应人类规范的讨论

本段落通过一个关于机器人适应人类互动规范的笔记示例,探讨了如何在Obsidian中利用链接和相关文本来拓展思路和深化写作内容。讨论了如何通过Obsidian的笔记链接功能来发现和探索相关的想法,并通过这些链接来增强写作的深度和广度。同时,还提到了Obsidian在提高写作效率和创意方面的潜在价值。

25:07

🎨 创意与生产力的平衡

这一段讨论了Obsidian在创意和生产力之间的平衡作用。描述了如何在Obsidian中创建和维护不同类型的笔记vaults,以及如何使用它们来激发创意和提高工作效率。提到了Obsidian对于处理非结构化思维和想法连接的价值,以及如何将其应用于结构化和层次化的文档编写。此外,还探讨了Obsidian在个人学术研究和日常学术工作中的潜在应用。

30:09

🌐 个人知识和创意的集合地

本段落强调了Obsidian作为个人知识和创意集合地的价值。讨论了如何在Obsidian的通用想法vault中收集和整理各种想法、引用和图片,以及如何通过这些内容来激发创造性思维。同时,还提到了Obsidian在日常笔记和写作中的应用,以及如何通过Obsidian来管理和组织日常工作和学术任务。此外,还探讨了Obsidian在提高个人生产力和创造力方面的潜在益处。

35:11

🚀 Obsidian带来的创意提升

这一段分享了使用Obsidian后感受到的创意提升和生产力增强。描述了Obsidian如何帮助用户在日常工作中找到秩序,并在创意思考中发现新的想法。提到了Obsidian如何通过链接和相关文本功能来激发用户的思考,并讨论了Obsidian对于个人学术研究和写作的潜在价值。此外,还提到了一个有趣的3D打印人物,象征着提高生产力的幽默元素。

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Obsidian

Obsidian 是一款知识管理和笔记软件,用户可以通过它创建、链接和组织笔记。在视频中,Obsidian 被讨论为一个能够促进创意思维和信息管理的工具,尤其适用于非结构化的内容创作和个人知识库的构建。

💡知识管理

知识管理是指创建、分享、利用和管理知识和信息的过程。在视频中,知识管理是通过Obsidian软件实现的,用户可以构建一个个人知识库,将零散的信息和想法组织成可检索、可链接的笔记。

💡链接

链接在Obsidian中指的是笔记之间的相互关联,用户可以通过创建链接来建立不同笔记内容之间的联系,形成一个复杂的知识网络。

💡创意

创意是指产生新颖和原创想法的能力。在视频中,Obsidian作为一个工具,帮助用户捕捉和扩展他们的创意,通过链接和组织笔记来激发新的思维和视角。

💡日常笔记

日常笔记是指记录个人日常活动、思考和观察的笔记。在视频中,日常笔记是使用Obsidian的一个主要用途,帮助用户跟踪和管理他们的日常工作和个人生活。

💡学术写作

学术写作是指在学术领域内进行的研究和出版物的撰写。它通常要求遵循特定的格式和结构,并且需要对研究内容进行严谨的论证和引用。

💡Markdown

Markdown 是一种轻量级的标记语言,它允许人们使用易读易写的纯文本格式编写文档,然后转换成结构化的HTML页面。在Obsidian中,笔记是以Markdown格式编写的,这使得笔记易于编辑和转换。

💡 Vaults

在Obsidian中,Vaults是指用户创建的用于组织和存储笔记的不同库或文件夹。每个Vault可以包含多个笔记,并且可以独立于其他Vaults存在,以便用户可以根据不同的项目或主题对笔记进行分类和管理。

💡生产力

生产力是指个人或组织在单位时间内完成工作的效率和效果。在视频中,讨论了如何通过使用Obsidian来提高个人的知识管理能力和写作生产力,尤其是在处理大量信息和笔记时。

💡结构化与非结构化

结构化与非结构化是指信息和数据的组织方式。结构化数据通常遵循固定的格式和规则,而非结构化数据则更为自由和灵活。在视频中,Obsidian被用来处理非结构化的思维和创意,同时也能够支持结构化的文档编写。

Highlights

讨论了Obsidian的用途和如何使用

提出了关于Obsidian的创意部分和生产力部分的问题

分享了个人使用Obsidian的经验

讨论了Obsidian中vault的概念

解释了如何在Obsidian中组织和过滤信息

提到了Obsidian的3D地图功能

探讨了Obsidian在学术工作中的潜在价值

讨论了Obsidian对于创意思维的支持

分享了个人如何将Obsidian与其他工具结合使用

讨论了Obsidian的开源性和数据存储问题

探讨了Obsidian在处理大量笔记时的挑战

分享了个人如何管理和回顾Obsidian中的笔记

讨论了Obsidian对于学术写作的潜在影响

提出了关于Obsidian在结构化文档创作中的局限性

讨论了Obsidian如何帮助提高个人生产力

分享了个人对于Obsidian的长期价值和意义的看法

Transcripts

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right I've got I've got a very specific

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we've got a list all right excellent a

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little list because I wanted to

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um I wanted to ask you about this first

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before we crack into obsidian in in some

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depth

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I wondered if we could frame the

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conversation just a little bit

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and so I'm gonna I'm gonna pitch this

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idea to you and see what you think

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so

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I'm coming at this

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from a position of well

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a bit of background you told me about

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obsidian

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months ago and you said go and have a

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look and I went and had a look and did a

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poor job of having a look tester he said

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but my immediate impression was

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has actually persisted

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since I've been doing more work on it so

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I come to the conversation today with

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quite a specific question

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now I I wonder whether it's not

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worthwhile if we're going to distribute

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this message out to people to say there

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are resources to go and look at on

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YouTube and maybe we can curate some

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links for people if you just want to get

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a flavor of what obsidian is and when

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you see the screen share that hopefully

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you're going to see from you

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it'll make a bit more sense but we can

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do a bit of background stuff but rather

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than getting into the background stuff

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because the problem that I've had with

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obsidian so far

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is everything I've heard about has been

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about what I think is probably the first

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half of obsidian which is maybe in

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simple terms the kind of creative part

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of writing notes and making links and

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then seeing those links

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grow

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and this enormous Matrix built

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around all of these kind of ideas that

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you might have

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I listened to Ingo and Jason's podcast

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you know on the rig

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which is a great podcast series although

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the last episode I think is two and a

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half hours long

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yeah so I mean there's quite a bit of

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chat in the first half there about

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what's going on in their lives which you

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can kind of I think you can skip through

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I do yes yes nice but but

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in Jason's case he was he's a real

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obsidian evangelist it seems he's come

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to it and he loves it and the example he

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gave was a great example of

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doing in Australia what's called a Texa

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review which is I think if you work in

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higher ed every five or six years your

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whole university gets reviewed for its

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academic quality so it's everything from

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the highest level governance right down

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to the delivery of individual courses

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and all the minutiae so he's taken on

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this project for his university and it's

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an enormous piece of work and I've known

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people spend three or four years at the

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very high level building up rooms full

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of documentation to support one of these

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reviews

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so he's using obsidian

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to

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find all of the material that he's going

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to need for this review but not just do

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it in a traditional kind of filing

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structure it seems but to create a 3D

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Matrix a map

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of the links between things so this is

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the point where I get to and I think

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yeah this is great

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although nagging in the back of my mind

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is this constant question about

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is this going to be worth it

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what happens then is where I start to

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become interested and where I think my

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barrier my obstacle is this is the

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threshold concept for me

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I love the idea that you can make all

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these connections it sounds really

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creative that you can make these notes

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and you can pull all these things

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together it seems to me at that point

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then the whole project Falls over

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because instead of having something

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simple to turn into what's going to have

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to be a two-dimensional linear

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report for Texa or a PhD thesis or a

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book or something like that you've now

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got this overwhelming mass of swirling

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stuff with multiple networks and nodes

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and that seems to me to be exactly

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getting in the way of actually doing

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something productive with it right so

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the conversation I would love to have

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with you today

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is about what you use it for and how you

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actually use this Matrix once you've

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built it yeah yeah that's how you filter

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through everything to make something

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actually useful to it

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so

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I think that's fine and I think the

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to start off with I would say that in

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obsidian you have the concept of volts

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which is it's like a folder

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um but it's a folder that's separated

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from other vaults within obsidian and so

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what a lot of people

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tend to do when I've seen people using

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obsidian is they combine all of these

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things together so I have three

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different vaults for obsidian the one is

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called daily notes the one is called

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commonplace like a commonplace book

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which is the collection of ideas and

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then I have a writing Vault and those

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three things are separate and those

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notes don't talk to each other and

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they're not aware of each other so your

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question about how do you write and not

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have all those things get in the way of

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it well I write in a writing Vault

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that's completely separate to the idea

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generating vault

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so

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I

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just start sharing my screen

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are you happy for me to interject the

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questions or do you want me to just let

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you flow for a while no you stop it what

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would you prefer anything you want can

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you just okay can you see my screen I

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can see me

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can you see that now yeah there you go

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right okay so straight away I've got a

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question which is that the stuff that

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goes into your daily notes

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if you then want to

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write with it you've just said that that

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vault is completely separate and doesn't

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talk to the writing box so presumably

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you have to move it from one into the

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other no

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no because I'm writing so I'll write and

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I'll just write and then if I hit

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if I come up against the wall and I

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don't know what to write anymore then

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I'll go to my idea Vault and I'll query

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something from the idea Vault I'll go to

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the idea Vault for ideas not to write

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so what are you writing about if not

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ideas

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so

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I feel like I need to show you

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um yeah

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um

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all right so okay so what you're looking

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at now this is my daily notes fault so

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just to give you an example I'll start a

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new note and I'll start it here on

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Monday the 21st

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says the file does not exist you want to

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create it so this is my daily note

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template so yeah because it's text you

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can create your own templates and these

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are all the things that I'm going to be

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doing for the day and I use this to um

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like if I have a meeting then I create

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links to meeting notes and and blah blah

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blah so this is the kind of just every

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day I make notes in this vault

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but also have this commonplace vault

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and that's obviously just from

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commonplace book and this is a place

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where I just dump ideas and you'll see

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it kind of looks the same here but it's

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a little bit different so I've set up

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the tabs

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um on this side the panels on the right

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and the left side a little bit

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differently

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so if I pick this one then you can see

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that the local graph displays here so

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immediately I can get a sense of how

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many other things this note is connected

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to but that's only within the

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commonplace Vault this is only within

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commonplace so these notes are all very

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short they you know tags I connect to

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other notes I can see incoming links I

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can see outgoing links I can see

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unlinked mentions

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this is where I capture all of my

08:00

literature notes so if I'm reading a

08:02

book

08:03

um like at the moment I'm reading this

08:04

book on embodied Computing as I'm

08:07

reading all of this content everything

08:10

that I highlight and annotate in that

08:12

book gets pulled into these literature

08:14

notes so that's all an automated process

08:17

same thing happens with articles

08:18

podcasts tweets

08:21

um

08:21

I've got conference notes going back 10

08:24

years those are all in here and this is

08:27

just a place for me to play around with

08:29

ideas I'll go through these notes I'll

08:31

link to other notes and and so on so you

08:34

feel

08:35

fairly good with how that works and then

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I have a writing vault

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and

08:44

if I want to

08:46

I don't know there's a little thing on

08:48

citizen science this is for a course

08:50

that I'm running at the moment so this

08:52

is where I'll just write

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um and if I need to draw from an idea

08:58

well then I'll go to my commonplace

09:01

notes and I don't think I have anything

09:03

on citizen science

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no so I've got no notes

09:13

yeah so that might say to me okay well

09:17

before I can start writing about citizen

09:19

science I should go and do some reading

09:20

on citizen science then I might go to my

09:23

library which I use zotero for some

09:25

people will pull their Library into

09:26

obsidian and I feel like you can get to

09:30

a point where

09:31

obsidian becomes this Hammer that you're

09:34

going to use to hit everything with

09:37

um and I feel like the the library

09:40

um I think it can work

09:42

and I think some people have made it

09:44

work

09:45

I prefer to use zotero for my library

09:48

so I'll go to zotero and that's where I

09:50

track everything that I want to follow

09:52

up on and read and

09:54

you haven't got anything on citizen

09:56

science but let's say you were going to

09:58

do a piece of writing on artificial

10:00

intelligence now I know you'll have tons

10:02

of stuff so if you opened up a writing

10:04

note

10:07

um

10:09

on artificial intelligence yeah

10:13

show me how you'd go about drawing back

10:16

on your

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um

10:20

I suppose your commonplace folder or

10:22

your or your what you call your daily

10:24

notes folder how would you pull that

10:26

material into what you're then going to

10:28

be writing about I don't

10:31

um so maybe this isn't a good example

10:34

because it's uh it's just a simple

10:35

definition so let me

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look for

10:41

robots must adapt to Norms around

10:43

interaction so this is a more detailed

10:45

note

10:46

right

10:47

um so

10:50

I might look at this and the the concept

10:52

here is that we need to have robots

10:54

adapt to human Norms around interaction

10:56

and in order to do that we are really

10:59

going to have people who are building

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robots who are familiar with human

11:02

psychology and sociology and all of

11:04

these ideas about how humans interact

11:06

because those are going to be the the

11:08

social and cultural norms that influence

11:11

the way that robots should behave what

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we're seeing is that

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um humans are adapting their behavior to

11:18

fit around what robots are capable of so

11:22

what I'm getting from this note isn't so

11:24

much the content but it's this idea so

11:27

I'm trying to capture an idea which is

11:29

that you know we need to design robots

11:31

that adapt to our behavior and our

11:34

sociology

11:35

um when I'm writing I'm not looking to

11:38

copy and paste information from this

11:40

note

11:41

I'm trying to find ideas within the

11:45

commonplace collection of notes that

11:48

give me inspiration or motivation or

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that help me make connections to

11:53

whatever I'm writing about in the

11:56

writing vault

11:57

right but herein lies the Crux of the

12:00

issue because of course you could do

12:02

that in any form you could do that in a

12:04

Word document you could do that in a

12:05

traditional file system you could do

12:07

that in Evernote you could do that in

12:09

Ulysses you've got many places you could

12:11

do that in the point about obsidian is

12:14

not that you want to look you're

12:15

interested in that note but I look at

12:17

the bottom for instance at the green

12:19

related text yeah and the tags you've

12:22

got that little icon seems to suggest

12:25

that there are three four five six seven

12:27

eight additional notes that are related

12:29

to that theme and each one of those

12:31

might have eight additional notes

12:33

related to them and each one of those

12:35

might have it and it becomes exponential

12:37

right so if you're talking about this

12:40

just purely from a note by note basis

12:42

then I don't see obsidian as being any

12:44

different so how do you stop the Mania

12:48

of

12:50

the exponential increase information

12:52

you've got linked all together here and

12:55

then actually write something about how

12:57

robots must relate to human Norms well

13:00

because these ideas at the bottom here

13:02

with their link they're related but

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if I'm thinking about the way that

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um robots should relate to

13:10

um to us to groups of human beings some

13:13

of this is like yeah educational AI must

13:15

adapt to learning science that's a

13:17

related idea because it's talking about

13:18

how technology needs to adapt to

13:21

something that we value so learning

13:24

science it's a related idea but it's not

13:27

it's not going to be a part of what I'm

13:29

writing about with robots so first of

13:32

all not all of the links are necessary

13:35

for me to follow

13:37

um types of robots in clinical practice

13:39

you can you know I can without going

13:42

into the notes I can just pull it up

13:43

here and look at it well you know this

13:46

also isn't really relevant this is a

13:48

list of types of robot form factors and

13:52

um not behaviors but the kinds of tasks

13:55

that these kinds of robots might be

13:57

called to do this also wouldn't really

13:59

be useful for the article that I'm

14:01

writing about you know robots and and

14:03

human behavior

14:05

um this might be interesting social and

14:07

cultural norms dictate what information

14:09

is appropriate so

14:11

the point isn't just that I'm randomly

14:13

following all of these links I might

14:16

look at this

14:17

and say okay social and cultural norms

14:21

dictate what information is appropriate

14:22

to share with other people okay so how

14:24

does this relate to my idea around

14:26

robots adapting to our Norms

14:30

um so I'm going to pause with with the

14:32

note and say

14:34

you know really reflect on it does this

14:36

help me

14:38

take my writing in a different direction

14:40

does this spoken idea that I maybe

14:43

wouldn't have got to if I was just

14:45

writing

14:47

um so I think for me the linking of the

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notes

14:52

um

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if I just

14:54

come here to edit again

14:57

um while I'm reading this

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um I don't know I'm just uh

15:05

virtual Norm so if I come back here

15:09

um

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it's suggesting our social network

15:14

Theory

15:15

is that something that I need to look at

15:17

is social network analysis something

15:19

that I need to look at do I need to

15:21

because now that I've seen this maybe

15:23

it's boxed the idea that you know what

15:25

the thing that I'm writing about robots

15:27

what it lacks at the moment is some kind