"Cult Following" - Stephen A. Smith May Vote For Trump?

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28 Mar 202429:10

Summary

TLDRThe transcript presents a dynamic conversation discussing the political landscape, focusing on the strategies and perceived effectiveness of both Democrats and Republicans. It touches on the divisive nature of Trump's presidency, the Biden administration's challenges, and the evolving support for Trump among various demographics. The discussion also highlights the impact of media portrayal on public perception and the importance of unity in America. The speaker grapples with his personal political beliefs, reflecting on the need for a more competitive and unifying approach from both parties.

Takeaways

  • πŸ€” The speaker expresses confusion and skepticism about the Democratic Party's strategy, questioning whether they believe their approach will be successful in the future elections.
  • πŸ“ˆ The transcript mentions a shift in support for Trump among various demographic groups, such as Hispanics and African Americans, which contradicts some common narratives.
  • πŸš€ The speaker criticizes the Democratic Party for lacking a competitive fervor and for not presenting a strong alternative to the incumbent president, despite having had time to prepare since 2016.
  • πŸŒͺ️ The conversation highlights the divisive nature of political rhetoric and its impact on public perception, with the speaker emphasizing the importance of unity in America.
  • πŸ”₯ The speaker discusses the challenges of discerning truth in a media landscape where the same information can be presented with different spins by different outlets.
  • πŸ›οΈ The transcript touches on the issue of economic policies and the impact of political decisions on the general public, including the handling of unemployment and inflation.
  • 🌎 The conversation includes a discussion on international relations and national security, with references to the situations in Ukraine, Afghanistan, and the Israeli-Hamas conflict.
  • πŸŽ™οΈ The speaker shares personal reflections on the responsibility of public figures and the media in shaping public opinion and the importance of being informed and critical consumers of news.
  • πŸ† The transcript includes a comparison between political campaigns and sports, highlighting the need for strategic planning and understanding the audience's desires.
  • πŸ’‘ The speaker emphasizes the value of free speech and the dangers of propaganda, advocating for vigilance and critical thinking in the face of potential manipulation.
  • 🀝 The conversation concludes with a call for unity and understanding, recognizing the diversity of opinions and the need for constructive dialogue in politics.

Q & A

  • What is the main concern expressed by the speaker about the Democratic Party's strategy?

    -The speaker is concerned that the Democratic Party is too focused on undermining the actions of the former president, Trump, and is not considering the effectiveness of this strategy. They believe the Democrats are convinced their approach will work in future elections but questions whether they have fully thought through the long-term consequences.

  • What does the speaker suggest about the support for Trump?

    -The speaker suggests that Trump has a strong, almost cult-like following, and this devotion is not going away. They also point out that Trump's support is diversifying, with more Hispanics and Black people supporting him according to polls, despite various controversies and legal issues.

  • What is the speaker's view on Joe Biden's presidency?

    -The speaker questions the enthusiasm of the Democrats for Joe Biden's presidency, especially considering his age and the chant for 'four more years' at the State of the Union. They express doubt about whether Biden will last the full term and suggest that some Democrats might be more focused on getting through the election and inauguration rather than long-term success.

  • What is the speaker's opinion on the Democratic Party's lack of competition?

    -The speaker criticizes the Democratic Party for their lack of competitive fervor, stating that they have had since 2016 to come up with a candidate who can compete with Trump but have failed to do so, which they find pathetic.

  • How does the speaker feel about the current state of politics and media?

    -The speaker feels that society has changed in a way that allows the same information to be twisted and presented differently by different media outlets, leading to confusion among the public. They express frustration with politicians who sign bills without reading them and with the media's role in shaping narratives.

  • What does the speaker suggest about the impact of fear on politics?

    -The speaker suggests that fear is the easiest emotion to manipulate people with in politics. They give an example of how fear was used to sell the idea of Trump as a threat, contributing to his loss in the election.

  • What is the speaker's stance on the economy and unemployment?

    -The speaker acknowledges that the economy and unemployment figures may look good on paper, but they question the reality of these numbers, citing personal experiences with high gas prices and grocery costs. They express doubt about the true state of the economy and the credibility of those in power.

  • What does the speaker say about the Democratic Party's handling of crises?

    -The speaker criticizes the Democratic Party for not uniting against external threats like China during the COVID-19 pandemic but instead focusing on blaming Trump. They suggest that this strategy was effective in demonizing Trump but question the long-term effects of such an approach.

  • How does the speaker view the role of the president?

    -The speaker views the presidency as more of a statesmanship position, where the president should act as a unifying figure for all citizens, regardless of their political affiliations. They believe in the importance of unity and the ability of America to overcome challenges when it is united.

  • What is the speaker's perspective on the media's role in politics?

    -The speaker believes that the media plays a significant role in shaping political narratives and influencing public opinion. They point out the collective effort of various media outlets to present a unified message against Trump and question the fairness and objectivity of such practices.

  • What does the speaker suggest about the future of the Democratic Party?

    -The speaker suggests that the Democratic Party needs to reassess its strategy and approach, especially considering the changing demographics and political leanings of the American public. They express concern that the party's current tactics may not be sustainable in the long run.

Outlines

00:00

πŸ€” Political Strategy and Party Dynamics

The paragraph discusses the strategic positioning of the Democratic Party in relation to Trump and the conservative side's questioning of their approach. It highlights the Democrats' belief in their strategy to undermine Trump's actions and how they are relying on the 2022 midterms to support their stance. The speaker critiques this strategy, citing examples of Democrats supporting Trump surrogates during the midterms and the anticipated red wave that did not materialize. The speaker also mentions the unwavering support Trump has among his followers, suggesting that the Democrats' current approach may not be effective in the long run.

05:02

πŸ’­ Economic and Social Realities

This paragraph delves into the complexities of the current economic situation, including the apparent contradiction between reported low unemployment rates and the high inflation and cost of living. The speaker shares personal experiences to illustrate these points and questions the truthfulness of different narratives presented by various media outlets. The paragraph also touches on national security issues, the war in Ukraine, and the Israeli-Hamas conflict, highlighting the speaker's confusion and frustration with the conflicting information and opinions in the public sphere.

10:04

πŸ” Media Influence and Public Perception

The speaker criticizes the mainstream media for their role in promoting a particular narrative against Trump, despite the lack of evidence for claims such as Russian collusion. The paragraph discusses the impact of media on public perception and the difficulty in discerning the truth when faced with constant and conflicting information. The speaker also reflects on their own responsibility to their audience to ensure that their statements are well-informed and accurate.

15:05

πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ Unity and the Importance of Leadership

In this paragraph, the speaker emphasizes the importance of unity in America, recounting the shared experience of 9/11 and the sense of collective response it generated. The speaker expresses concern over the divisive rhetoric used by political figures and the potential negative impact on the nation's unity. The paragraph also touches on the speaker's belief in the potential of America when it is united, and the responsibility of leaders to foster this unity rather than contributing to division.

20:06

πŸ—³οΈ Voting Behavior and the 2024 Election

The paragraph explores the speaker's thoughts on the upcoming 2024 election, questioning the motivations behind voting for particular candidates and the potential outcomes of those choices. The speaker discusses the influence of fear in shaping public opinion and the role of media in manipulating emotions. The paragraph also reflects on the speaker's personal political journey and the factors that might influence their voting decision in the future.

25:08

πŸŽ™οΈ Media Bias and the Role of the Press

The speaker critiques the media's role in shaping political narratives, particularly focusing on the portrayal of Trump and the perceived bias in news coverage. The paragraph discusses the impact of media strategies on public perception and the importance of recognizing and challenging propaganda. The speaker also shares personal experiences with the media and expresses a desire for a more balanced and honest approach to reporting.

Mindmap

Keywords

πŸ’‘Political positioning

The term 'political positioning' refers to the strategic placement of a political figure or party in relation to their opponents, based on their policies, values, and target audience. In the context of the video, it is used to discuss the tactics and strategies employed by Democrats in their interactions with former President Trump and their approach to the upcoming elections. The speaker questions whether the Democrats' current strategy is effective or if they are convinced it will yield results in the future.

πŸ’‘Cult following

A 'cult following' description is missing here due to the original JSON being cut off.

Highlights

Discussion on the Democratic Party's strategy and its effectiveness.

Mention of the 2022 midterms and the anticipation of a 'red wave' that did not materialize.

Observation that some Democrats supported Trump surrogates during the 2022 midterms.

Metaphorical reference to Trump's following as a 'cult-like' devotion.

Polling data suggesting increased support for Trump among Hispanics and African Americans.

Concerns about Biden's age and the potential implications for his presidency.

Speculation on the Democratic Party's focus on Vice President Harris as a future leader.

Critique of the Democratic Party's lack of competitive fervor against Trump.

Reflection on the difficulty of determining 'undeniable facts' in the current political climate.

Discussion on the economy, inflation, and the cost of living.

Mention of the crisis at the border and differing views on how to handle it.

Debate on the support for Ukraine in the context of the war and national security.

Personal accountability and the responsibility of public figures to understand their audience.

The impact of media portrayal on public perception of political figures.

The importance of unity and coming together as a nation regardless of political differences.

The role of fear in politics and how it can be used to manipulate public sentiment.

The influence of Trump's rhetoric and actions on his popularity and the political landscape.

The significance of the 9/11 attacks in fostering a sense of national unity.

The challenge of balancing loyalty to one's constituency with the broader responsibilities of office.

Transcripts

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going back to going back to your mom

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when you're talking about on the

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conservative side do do your recent

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positioning with Trump has been has got

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has gotten a lot of people little bit uh

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uh asking questions okay so hey you know

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the Democrats what you're doing you know

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trying to undermine everything this

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man's doing it's not working you know

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you're kind of going through the whole

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process and he kind of Biden all this

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stuff what do you think you know the

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strategy that they're doing right now do

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you do you think they don't know that

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it's not working or do you think they're

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convinced it's going to end up working

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come November 5th with the day we vote I

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think they're convinced it's going to

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work and I think that they're leaning on

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the 2022 midterms to buffer their point

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um you had certain Democrats who were

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supporting uh Trump surrogates I'm sorry

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they were they were supporting these

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folks uh and favoring yeah Trump

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surrogates during the

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2022 um Mid terms and people were

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anticipating a red wave that never

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arrived you see what I'm saying and so

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that's what they're thinking about the

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more we put Trump out there the more we

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put Trump out there the more we buffer

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support and and augment support for

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these folks who support him ultimately

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it will lead to our Victory that's how

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they're thinking and I'm saying no not

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what I'm seeing I think that he has damn

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near a cult following I'm not calling

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folks cult as anything like that I'm

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just talking I'm just speaking

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metaphorically about how these folks are

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in terms of their love their devotion

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their belief in him and they're not

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going anywhere and then you got

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Hispanics who are supporting him now

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according to the polls you've got more

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black folks who are supporting him now

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according to the polls and even though

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they're swearing that the overturning of

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roie Wade along with some of the charges

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that have been executed against them

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that that's going to turn off white

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women well we ain't seeing that evidence

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and so I'm looking at it from that

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standpoint and I'm like well wait a

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minute now are y'all not paying

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attention because let me tell you

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something shalag the God said it best

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when he said Joe Biden is not inspiring

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at all um you almost get the impression

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that the Democrats who are pushing for

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Joe Biden to get four more years because

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that's what they were chanting at the

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State of the Union to just four more

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years four more years the man's going to

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be 82 in November and you you chant for

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more years but you've got Progressive

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leftists on this side chanting for more

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years I don't know if they know how

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embarrassing that is okay okay but

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that's neither here nor there the point

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is is that when you're doing that I'm

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looking at them and I'm saying to myself

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come on now this is utterly

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ridiculous you think this is going to

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get it done but I tell you what I'm

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starting to

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suspect they don't know if Joe's going

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to last four more years

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and all they care about is that he gets

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through election day in the

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inauguration and then after that who's

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the next line in line it's SCA Harris

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and I think that's how folks are

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thinking but my problem with it is again

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we're capitalist we like competition

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what happened to competing with him and

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winning what's all the laware about one

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charge after another you got Leticia

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James and the New York attorney general

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in in in in in New York you've got you

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you you got the folks in Georgia with

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Fanny Willis and others you've got you

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know maralago situation you got a I mean

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we're really really really going to have

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a trial about hush money to a former

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point star that's what we're doing

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that's what we doing now I'm like are

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you kidding me now don't get me wrong

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I'm not advocating that anybody should

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be above the law at any time what I am

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saying is he's the president of the

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United States the former president of

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the United States you talk to about

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Russian collusion you talked to us about

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a bevy of things over the years man

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still running four four indictments 91

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counts and the man gets more campaign

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dollars climbing in the polls okay and

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last time I checked he still ain't been

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in cuffs he still ain't been put behind

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bars and he's the presumptive GOP

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nominee you can't stop him you cannot

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stop them and so for me I find myself

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ashamed of the Democratic Party for

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their lack of a competitive fervor you

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had since 2016 to come up with somebody

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else and you still can't do it that is

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pathetic it is pathetic and there is no

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excuse for it whatsoever it is

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2024 in eight years you should have been

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able to find somebody that can compete

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with this man

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other than a soon to be 82y old

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incumbent well let me ask you this

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though yes do you want Democrats to

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win that's a tough question that's the

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question yeah it is it's but it's

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totally fair bro I'm not going to that

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question it's totally fair

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um I have to confess what most folks who

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sit before guys like yourself

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don't it's hard to figure out like for

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example supposedly we got a good economy

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unemployment is relatively decent around

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4% you know black unemploy a little

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under 6% about 5.6% if I remember

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correctly

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um but then you listen to the wri and

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it's like what about

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inflation and then you're driving in

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California and you paying an arm and a

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leg for gas you're going to the

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supermarket you buying some milk you

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buying some bread or whatever because

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see contrary to what folks believe I

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actually do go to the supermarket okay I

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do buy my own stuff you know all of this

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other St I'm like you're watching and

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you're seeing all of this stuff and it's

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like who's telling the truth do we have

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a good economy or not is it really a

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crisis at the border or not I believe it

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is yeah do you you know is inflation a

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real thing is it

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imaginary you're looking at all of these

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different things you're talking about

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National Security the war in Ukraine

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should we support them should we give

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them more money than we've already given

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them you're looking at the you know

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Israeli you know Hamas conflict I call

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it the Israeli Hamas conflict as opposed

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to Israeli Palestinian conflict you know

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but I don't touch that cuz I don't know

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enough and that's not my Lane but I also

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find myself okay well we we we got folks

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here saying stop this stop this stop the

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bombing stop all of this and then you

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have other folks like hell with thatas

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has to be eliminated because look at

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what they've done October 7th and the

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kidnapping and 13 you're hearing all of

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this and you read the different

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Publications I'll read The Washington

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Post one minute I'll read the New York

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Times the next I read Wall Street

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Journal the next I'm watching the

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channels Fox News MSNBC CNN I'm going

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back and forth and literally we've

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changed as a

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society we can take the same information

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and put a completely different Twist on

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it to make it look like who's right

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who's wrong somebody as knowledgeable as

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you guys have proven to be with no more

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than me at this moment in time I'm

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studying more and more and more of it

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every day because I'm fixated on it just

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like I am with sports but I'm saying if

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you tell me what is definitively true

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that's undeniable I can tell you how I

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feel my problem is is that I literally

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could be

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sitting in front of one person on the

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left with the same exact information

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that I'm sitting in front of somebody 15

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minutes later with on the right and they

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have two completely different versions

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and I think that's why America is so

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lost because folks are confused they

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don't have the time when you're out

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there hustling and bustling and trying

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to take care your family pay mortgages

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maintain or elevate your quality of life

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you don't have time to study everything

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that needs to be studied you've got

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Congressional incentive figures telling

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you they signed bills they didn't even

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read literally I've seen them on tape

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doing this and so when you have that

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going on it's really really difficult to

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say oh I know this but if you tell me

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these are the facts Stephen beyond the

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shadow of a doubt I don't give a damn

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what it is I can tell you how I feel

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about it I can do that yeah you know

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it's it's interesting you say that and

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and thank you for being you know

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straight up with it that's the one thing

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about you that why I relate and I like

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watching you cuz you you're straight up

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I watching you'll say yeah I'll see

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you're defending Magic Johnson one time

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like this guy's my friend I'm like okay

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he's sometimes easier to Magic than he

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is to somebody else to all this stuff

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but I love the fact that you're raw and

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you come out and give you feedback

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here's what it makes me think about when

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when asking about who you want to vote

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and who do I believe do I go with the

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guy on the left or the guy on the right

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you ever had a guy the NBA or sports

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that we all criticized MH and the media

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went after him so everybody's what a

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freaking guy you know piece of this

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and seven years later dude that guy was

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mistreated by everybody right what was

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that all about right you're like dude no

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no no no I'm listen I'm not with you man

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I'm over here I'm on this guy's side I

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don't like what you did you know the

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truth is this right so we can we can

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look at a couple things with you know

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2024 in a few different ways what we

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have right not Stephen A that I think is

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easy to do is two things M you actually

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have for once we haven't had this you

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got two people we get to vote for that

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we got four years to choose from each

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it's not a what if right it's not a well

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if he do you want somebody like Hillary

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Clinton do you want a man like this to

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have access to the nuclear button I

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don't know if I do well guess what you

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know he had it for four years what

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happened and you know this guy had it

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for four years what happened so it's

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actually very easy systematically to sit

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there with data and say they went after

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this guy I was convinced he was tied to

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Russia right $ 35 million Hillary

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Clinton that was a lie and everybody in

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the mainstream media was behind it

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everybody CNN

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MSNBC guys that's kind of shitty and

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then you try to defame character then

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you went after the girls then egene

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Carroll $83 million Anderson Cooper asks

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was he did he rape you well I think rape

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is more of a fantasy what are you

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talking about we got to go to break

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right answer the question

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and the confusing part for me is like

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I'm a I you know my mom's side all

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Democrats they were Communists my dad

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said they were imperialist so there was

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a debate between the two where rich

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people are greedy and poor people are

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lazy so I have to kind of figure it out

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on my own to see where right the reality

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was today four years versus four years

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we got three Afghanistan screw up you

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know Ukraine and and and you know Russia

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looks like we're going to have to give

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these guys another Afghanistan of a

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couple trillion dollars of taxpayers

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money that we keep sending money oh

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great right Israel Hamas okay all right

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whether we know everything about the

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history of or not how come this didn't

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happen four years ago how come there was

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nothing going on four years ago so when

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you look at it that way what is

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happening a lot that I talk to guys who

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are celebrities influencers Hollywood TV

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somebody that you watch there's a couple

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different camps there's the one camp

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that is like like man I'm still going to

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vote left there's the other camp that

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says dude I'm not going to tell you who

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I'm voting for which is kind of like the

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middle like if you had that one

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interview with Denzel who did you vote

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for it's none of your business I don't

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know if you remember that interview

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toally I totally remember I don't blame

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him for that either because Hollywood's

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different exactly Hollywood's different

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and they would to hold him accountable

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in a ways in ways most others can't nor

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would but but here's the feeling I'm

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getting with you bro the feeling I'm

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getting with you which is why I'm kind

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of like enamored with like the journey

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you're going through I'm just kind of

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following it

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right um I think you gotta fight and and

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I think you know moms left certain

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values of Pride and Dad and it's like

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hey dude you got a job to protect this

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country that gave you this life and

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right I feel like there is something

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going on with you that's kind of like

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you know you want to talk but you know

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it's kind of like am I really going to

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say this can I really say this it's not

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that it's not it's just that I want to

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be as sure as you are that's what I'm

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saying I owe it to the audience I owe it

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to the people to make sure that if I'm

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going to come out with fire and

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brimstone I know what the hell I'm

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talking about and sometimes when it

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comes to these issues I don't so I'm

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just being honest about what would

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happen if you came out and you said

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let's just say in the month of October

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Stephen A came out let's be real here

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you came out on your podcast obviously

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not at the network you would put on your

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podcast you said guys I'm going to say

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something right now you guys are going

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to be very upset at me what happen if

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you in the month of October said I'm

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voting for Trump would happen I'd be

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called a sellout and a by my own

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community that would be automatic that's

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EX EXA what they would say but what I

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would tell you is to know something

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about me I wouldn't give a damn I'm not

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scared I'll say what I feel let me tell

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you let me address the point that you

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made

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earlier my belief is I'm going to vote

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for Biden

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now you have to

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remember it's how you're looking at the

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presidential election might be a little

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bit different than me for example I'm

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the kind of person that might vote for

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the president being and a Democrat and

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every other position

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Republican every Senator every

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Congressional figure every local in

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other words because I view the

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presidency I understand it's the

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commanderin-chief I get it but I view

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and and listen I will preface it by

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saying I'm open to correction I truly am

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I view the presidency as more of a

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statesmanship position I would if if I

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interviewed Trump I would look him in

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his face and tell him why I would never

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I'm not calling you a racist I'm not

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saying that all of your policies were

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wrong hell the economy was thriving

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before Co I remember but you don't know

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how to act you just I said you don't

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care what you say you don't care about

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how divisive you come across you don't

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have any sensitivity whatsoever to how

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you Scar the living hell out of people

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with your rhetoric and with your your

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aloof I don't know if the word is

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aloofness or just a

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disregard for the importance of unity I

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believe you believe in America I believe

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in America let me tell you what I

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believe in about America I believe that

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when we're together nothing can stop us

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nothing I don't care if it's a bad

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president I don't care if it's bad

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people on Capitol Hill I don't care if

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Corporate America is garbage I don't

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care if wall Street's messing up we will

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overcome anything when we're together

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and I remember how I felt this way and

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this is only time I'm 56 years old and

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it's the only time in my life I ever

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felt this way 9/11

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happens and that first plane goes into

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the first Tower and I'm laying in my bed