Broncos cut Russell Wilson, Steelers & Raiders favored to land Russ | NFL | FIRST THINGS FIRST

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5 Mar 202420:52

Summary

TLDRNick Wright and Brandon Marshall engage in a lively debate, analyzing the recent fallout surrounding Russell Wilson's departure from the Denver Broncos. They delve into the implications for Wilson's future, discussing potential landing spots and the odds for his next team. Wright argues that Wilson's decline has been precipitous, rendering him unable to perform at a starting NFL level, while Marshall believes he could still contribute as a low-tier starter. Their spirited exchange explores the ripple effects on the Broncos' ownership, Sean Payton's coaching tenure, and the team's quarterback dilemma moving forward.

Takeaways

  • 🏈 Russell Wilson's decline from a top-tier NFL quarterback has been rapid and concerning, leading to his release from the Denver Broncos.
  • 💰 The Broncos' trade for Wilson and subsequent massive contract extension have been widely criticized as disastrous decisions.
  • 👎 Wilson's level of play last season was abysmal, with even his former coach Sean Payton acknowledging his struggles.
  • 🔮 Speculation surrounds Wilson's next team, with the Steelers, Raiders, Patriots, and Vikings among the potential suitors willing to take a low-risk chance on him.
  • 💵 Due to the Broncos paying most of his salary, Wilson can be signed for the veteran minimum of $1.21 million, reducing the financial risk for interested teams.
  • 🤔 Debate exists over whether Wilson's decline is due to age, injuries, or a change in his playing style after securing a lucrative contract.
  • 🚫 There is skepticism that Wilson can regain his former elite form, with some analysts suggesting he is 'washed' as a starting-caliber NFL quarterback.
  • 👀 The Broncos' new ownership group is under scrutiny for their handling of the Wilson situation and their ability to make sound personnel decisions.
  • 🔄 Denver's quest to find their next starting quarterback is complicated by the significant dead cap hit they will incur from Wilson's contract over the next two seasons.
  • 🏆 The Broncos' missteps with Wilson have been compounded by their AFC West rivals, the Kansas City Chiefs, winning the Super Bowl and rising to dominance in the division.

Q & A

  • What is the main topic of discussion in the provided script?

    -The main topic revolves around the dismal performance of Russell Wilson during his stint with the Denver Broncos, and the potential implications and fallout from his release by the team.

  • What was the primary reason cited for Russell Wilson's decline?

    -While specific reasons were not explicitly stated, there were suggestions that Wilson's selfish style of play, refusal to run, and potential injuries (like a lat injury) may have contributed to his decline.

  • How did the panelists evaluate the trade and contract extension given to Russell Wilson by the Broncos?

    -The panelists viewed the Broncos' decision to trade for Wilson and immediately extend his contract as a major mistake, with one panelist stating it was a five-year mistake due to the cap implications and lost draft picks.

  • What was the consensus on who the Russell Wilson situation looks worse for – Wilson himself or the Denver Broncos?

    -The panelists had differing views, with one arguing it looks worse for Wilson as he has likely lost his starting job, while the other believed it looks worse for the Broncos due to the costly mistake and long-term implications.

  • What potential destinations were discussed for Russell Wilson's next team?

    -The teams mentioned as potential destinations for Wilson included the Steelers, Raiders, Falcons, Patriots, Vikings, and Raiders, with the Steelers and Raiders being viewed as the most likely options.

  • How did the panelists view the prospect of Russell Wilson joining a team like the Steelers or Patriots?

    -One panelist suggested that Wilson joining a team like the Steelers or Patriots could be a fresh start, allowing him to compete for a starting job without the team being overly invested financially. However, the other panelist was adamant that Wilson is no longer a starting-caliber quarterback in the NFL.

  • What were the odds provided for Russell Wilson's potential next team?

    -The odds provided were: Steelers, Raiders, Falcons, Patriots, and Vikings.

  • What quarterback options were discussed for the Denver Broncos' next season?

    -The quarterbacks mentioned as potential options for the Broncos included Will Levis, CJ Stroud, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Malik Willis, and Jameis Winston.

  • How did the panelists view the Broncos' potential quarterback options for the upcoming season?

    -The panelists did not seem optimistic about the Broncos' potential quarterback options, with one panelist stating that none of the options are necessarily on the level of Patrick Mahomes. There was a suggestion to draft JJ McCarthy and sign Jameis Winston as a stopgap option.

  • What was the overall sentiment expressed regarding the Broncos' quarterback situation and their ability to recover from the Russell Wilson mistake?

    -The overall sentiment was that the Broncos' quarterback situation is bleak, and recovering from the Russell Wilson mistake will be extremely difficult, potentially taking five years due to the cap implications and lost draft picks.

Outlines

00:00

🗣️ Debate on Russell Wilson's Impact

The segment begins with a lively debate between the hosts on who was more impacted by the Russell Wilson trade and subsequent release - Wilson himself or the Denver Broncos organization. The hosts analyze Wilson's declining performance, the massive financial implications for the Broncos, and draw comparisons to other athletes like Kurt Warner and Russell Westbrook who experienced similar falls from grace. They also touch upon the potential role of injuries in Wilson's regression.

05:01

🔮 Speculation on Russell Wilson's Next Destination

The discussion shifts to speculating on Russell Wilson's next team. The hosts analyze the odds provided by Vegas for potential destinations like the Steelers, Raiders, Falcons, Patriots, and Vikings. They debate the merits of each team, considering factors like salary cap implications, existing quarterbacks, and the need for competition or mentorship. The Steelers and Raiders emerge as the most likely options based on their analysis.

10:03

🏟️ Potential Fit for Russell Wilson with the Patriots

The hosts further explore the possibility of Russell Wilson joining the New England Patriots. They discuss scenarios where the Patriots could trade up in the draft to acquire a rookie quarterback while bringing in Wilson as a stopgap or competition for Mac Jones. The hosts see this as a potential fresh start for Wilson, similar to the Cam Newton signing, but with the caveat that Wilson's decline may be more concerning than Newton's physical limitations.

15:04

😬 Long-term Implications for the Broncos

The conversation turns to the long-term consequences of the Russell Wilson trade for the Denver Broncos. The hosts emphasize the significant financial burden and loss of draft capital, which could hamper the team's ability to build a competitive roster for the next few years. They express skepticism about the Broncos' ability to quickly recover from this setback, regardless of who their next quarterback is.

20:06

🤔 Speculation on the Broncos' Next Quarterback

The segment concludes with a discussion on the potential options for the Denver Broncos' next starting quarterback. The hosts analyze the odds provided by Vegas for various prospects, including Bryce Young, C.J. Stroud, Will Levis, and others. One host suggests drafting Jalen Hurts as a long-term solution, while another proposes signing Jameis Winston as a stopgap measure. The hosts also touch upon the challenges of finding a true franchise quarterback to replace Russell Wilson.

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Keywords

💡Russell Wilson

Russell Wilson is the former quarterback of the Denver Broncos, who was traded from the Seattle Seahawks in a blockbuster deal before the 2022 season. The video discusses Wilson's disappointing performance with the Broncos, leading to his release. His decline from being a top quarterback is a central theme, with comparisons made to other high-profile players who experienced a sudden fall from grace, like Kurt Warner and Russell Westbrook.

💡Denver Broncos

The Denver Broncos are the NFL team that acquired Russell Wilson in a trade that involved multiple players and draft picks. The video analyzes how the trade and subsequent contract extension for Wilson backfired, making it a disastrous move for the Broncos' new ownership. The team's struggles, coaching issues, and Wilson's poor play are discussed, with the trade being labeled as potentially one of the worst in NFL history.

💡Trade

The trade refers to the blockbuster deal between the Denver Broncos and Seattle Seahawks, where the Broncos acquired Russell Wilson in exchange for multiple players and high draft picks. The video examines the trade's implications, with the Broncos giving up valuable assets and then compounding the mistake by extending Wilson's contract before he even played a game for them. The trade is contrasted with the Deshaun Watson deal, which is deemed even worse due to the off-field issues involved.

💡Contract Extension

The contract extension refers to the lucrative long-term deal the Denver Broncos gave Russell Wilson immediately after acquiring him in the trade with the Seattle Seahawks. The video criticizes the Broncos for committing such a large sum of money to Wilson before even seeing him play for the team, adding to the disastrous nature of the trade. The extension, combined with Wilson's subsequent poor performance, made it an even more costly mistake for the Broncos.

💡Sean Payton

Sean Payton is the new head coach of the Denver Broncos, hired after the team's disappointing 2022 season with Russell Wilson. The video discusses how Payton, considered a coaching prodigy, was unable to fix Wilson's issues and had to bench him, further highlighting Wilson's struggles. Payton's involvement in the Wilson trade and contract extension is also mentioned, adding to the scrutiny of the Broncos' decision-making process.

💡Quarterback

Quarterback is the most important position in American football, and the video revolves around the performance and trade of Russell Wilson, a quarterback. It discusses the Broncos' options for their next starting quarterback after moving on from Wilson, including potential draft picks or free agent signings like Jameis Winston. The quarterback position is crucial for a team's success, and the video analyzes the Broncos' missteps in handling their quarterback situation with Wilson.

💡Draft Pick

Draft picks refer to the selections teams make in the annual NFL Draft to acquire new players coming out of college. The video mentions how the Denver Broncos traded away multiple high draft picks, including first-rounders, to acquire Russell Wilson from the Seattle Seahawks. The loss of these valuable draft picks is highlighted as part of the costly mistake made by the Broncos in the Wilson trade, as those picks could have been used to acquire talented young players to build the team.

💡Starter

A starter is a player who is part of the main lineup or starting unit for a team. The video questions whether Russell Wilson can still be considered a starter-quality quarterback in the NFL after his poor performance with the Denver Broncos. It discusses the possibility of Wilson being relegated to a backup role or having to compete for a starting job with his next team, given his decline in play. The concept of a starter is crucial in evaluating a player's value and role on a team.

💡Decline

Decline refers to the sudden drop in performance or ability exhibited by Russell Wilson after his trade to the Denver Broncos. The video explores the reasons behind Wilson's decline, from potential injuries to a change in his playing style. It contrasts his current level of play with his previous success as a top quarterback in the league. The concept of decline is central to the discussion, as it highlights the unexpected and drastic nature of Wilson's fall from grace.

💡Mistake

Mistake is a recurring theme in the video, referring to the Denver Broncos' decision to trade for and extend Russell Wilson's contract. The video labels the Wilson trade as potentially one of the worst mistakes in NFL history, given the assets given up and the subsequent poor return on investment. The mistake is compounded by the Broncos' new ownership making such a costly move in their first major decision. The concept of a mistake is used to analyze the Broncos' missteps and the long-term implications for the franchise.

Highlights

Nick Wright argues that the Russell Wilson trade was worse for Wilson than for the Denver Broncos because it happened simultaneously with the Deshaun Watson trade, which was considered even worse.

Nick suggests that the Russell Wilson situation is unprecedented, as it's difficult to find a comparable case of a player falling off this quickly without an off-field scandal or injury.

They discuss potential comparisons for Wilson's decline, such as Kurt Warner, Russell Westbrook, and David Duval, but none seem to fit perfectly.

Nick believes that the Russell Wilson trade looks worse for the Broncos' new ownership group, who gave him a huge extension before even seeing him play for the team.

Nick argues that Russell Wilson was playing a selfish style of quarterback last season, focused on protecting his touchdown-to-interception ratio rather than making the best plays.

Nick states that both head coaches (Nathaniel Hackett and Sean Payton) quickly realized that Wilson could no longer play at a starting NFL level.

They discuss potential landing spots for Russell Wilson next season, with Nick suggesting teams like the Pittsburgh Steelers, Las Vegas Raiders, or New England Patriots.

Nick believes that the Russell Wilson trade is a five-year mistake for the Broncos, as they will be dealing with the consequences and dead money from the trade for several seasons.

They speculate on the Broncos' next quarterback, with Brendan suggesting that they should draft J.J. McCarthy and sign Jameis Winston.

Nick argues that the Broncos' next quarterback won't be very good because they'll be dealing with the cap hit from Russell Wilson's contract and missing out on draft picks they traded away.

Brendan, as a Chiefs fan, expresses his delight at watching the Broncos' situation unfold after years of them dominating the Chiefs in the 90s.

They discuss the potential for the Broncos to trade up in the draft to select a quarterback like J.J. McCarthy.

Nick suggests that the Broncos' only option is to sign Jameis Winston as their starting quarterback for next season.

They debate whether Russell Wilson's decline is due to injury, specifically mentioning his knee, lat, and finger injuries.

Brendan expresses frustration as a former Steelers fan, using a rare expletive to convey his disappointment with the team's quarterback situation.

Transcripts

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J and J to they do a heck a

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show live New York what's wrong with you

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because you made fun of my friend called

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them high flutin sorry I didn't buy the

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leather bound editions first things

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first day two back from vacation day two

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today quick Tale of Two Cities not the

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book I know you're so literary uh Russ's

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career in Seattle great two super bowls

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one1 with the Broncos not so much uh

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although he played okay last year Nick

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disagrees uh who does this look worse

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for the whole situation macro Denver or

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Russ I I'll give a direct answer but

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before I do can we we shouldn't have to

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start so negative oh can we talk about

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who it looks great for sure your old

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buddy Nick Wright classic one not even a

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two

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just time classic one immediately

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correct every step of the way almost

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like a a classic zero I'm more correct I

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it might have been invented I was more

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right than I thought I could have been

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and so I mean it's on Russ it was a

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2-year classic one but to and now to go

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negative like we have to go in sports TV

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I wanted to go positive uh listen it

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it's bad for Denver but because it

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happened almost simultaneous with a

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worse trade and worse contract with the

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SHA Watson I think it's kind of

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mitigated and so because just in

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historically I don't think people can

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say this is the worst trait it's like

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well the Deshawn trade they gave up more

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and paid him more and they can't get rid

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of him so because of that I think it is

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clearly worse for Russ because Brew it's

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it is a fall without an off field

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Scandal or an injury unlike I could I I

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me Dusty Josh all for like 20 minutes

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before the show we're like What is the

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comp for this cross Sports the best I

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could come up with was Kurt Warner maybe

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and Kurt did come back at the end but

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Kurt also he had multiple injuries that

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let you broke a hand broke a wrist broke

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a finger like and so it was like that

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that felt like it was but his run as

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great as it was wasn't as long as Russ

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no it wasn't as long it was a higher

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Peak but shorter time Josh brought up

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like maybe Russell Westbrook in the time

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from League MVP to like can't even play

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for the Lakers but that just felt more

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about fit than it was the player so it

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is just it David Duval was what I came

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up with oh and you have to go to golf 20

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years ago and so can I throw one to you

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that I had written down yeah I wrote

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down Carson wentzes but he Carson Wentz

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here's the thing with that I know he's

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never was at the height no but he also

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got his leg broken and ACL snapped and

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maybe we can say it was going to go

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poorly but it was he was near he's going

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to win League MVP gets his leg broken

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and is never the same player and so RG3

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we've seen those things and we've seen

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Scandal Russ wasn't old enough for us to

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say oh nope it was just age and it would

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and for it to be this bad this quickly

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and to where what it's going to cost him

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because I don't know he's going to be a

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starter brew and so I my answer is going

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to be Russell Wilson you you really got

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me thinking I'm TR a lot of time think

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about it it's hard to find it's hard

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right away but I look I'm glad you

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brought up Kurt Warner because I thought

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about that when Russ you know when they

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released him and now he's you know he

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released his statement he has that Kurt

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Warner was bad with the Giants yeah you

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know what Ian I mean it was like it was

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bad at the end with the Rams right

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before the GI

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I'm not saying he's going to lead a team

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to a Super Bowl like like Kurt Warner

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did but I think this is an opportun like

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it's not it doesn't have to be done for

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R so that's why I think it's worse for

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the Broncos it's bad for both of them

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don't get me wrong and that includes

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Shawn pton because Shawn pyton came in

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as the Golden Boy and of course he's got

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time to maybe they'll be very good next

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year or in the future so he can erase

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that but right now Sean pton bad their

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defense went from like solid like 14th

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in the league to 27th in the league they

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gave up a 70 piece he won seven games

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after saying I'd be shocked if we don't

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make the playoffs in the preseason and

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all of his gffs in the media and the

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missteps and things like that so I think

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it looks bad for everybody but I'm going

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to focus more on the the Broncos because

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remember this also was new ownership the

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W you know of Walmart W and all that

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their first thing I mean I don't think

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they hired hacket right he was there

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before right but was giving him the deal

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but yeah but they came in and I mean

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before Russ gets off the plane they they

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give him this huge extension so first of

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all they gave up all of this you know

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with the three players the five picks

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two of them first round picks and

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Seattle's made good on that Devon

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Withers spon was all pro pro bowl

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cornerback and they got a offensive

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lineman that starts for him in that and

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then they made it worse by giving him

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this extension and so this has to make

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you say okay how confident am I in our

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ownership you know um they went out and

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you know paid rust before they even saw

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and play for us at all even in practice

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and so so I think there's that and I

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think Nick like I said Russ wherever he

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goes has a chance to I don't think he'll

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get back to what he was but to play well

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and like you said wild he wasn't

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horrible last year I think Nick he's a I

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think I don't think he's an ontime

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quarterback I think that's where the

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problems begin I think he's more of a

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guy that's going to scramble around and

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make plays and he couldn't do that in

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Denver and he okay so but let's so a

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couple things one one of the reason he

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couldn't do that his first year in

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Denver because he came in out of shape

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and he refused to run and his second

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year in Denver he I and I think Shawn

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pyton agrees with and I'm not saying I

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want to make it very clear I know some

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people at Fox have real relationship

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with Shawn pyton I'm not one of them I

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don't know him so this is not coming

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from Shawn at all but I think he agrees

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with me given the sideline interactions

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and him benching Russ and all of that

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Russ was playing a Russell Wilson

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selfish style of quarterback where he

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was not making the best plays instead he

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was he was protecting that touchdown

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interception ratio so folks would say

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things like this well last year he

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wasn't that bad you know he only had one

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less touchdown and Patrick Mahomes look

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at the ratio I watched every game he

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played he was awful he wasn't awful he

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was a bottom eight quarterback in

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football last year that's I I wouldn't

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say look I hear you we talked about this

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before and the numbers you're right they

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they're a bit deceiving cuz you look at

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the numbers and you're like right top

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five or six in passer rating top 10 in

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touchdowns I give you that but I

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wouldn't say off okay but it wasn't it

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it wasn't near you know who would Shawn

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pton and the Broncos who are giving him

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$85 million to leave with no other plan

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with no why they look worse well well

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you can that's fine like and I don't

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don't what is the plan no and I

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understand your argument and my point

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that just because the Browns made an

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even worse decision that probably is bad

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L still could maybe and I guess maybe

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that could turn around but I I think

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that I I think Russ was so bad his first

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year in Denver that people are now

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overstating his second year in Denver

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they were a team that again had Jared

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Thum as a backup still that's who they

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have as a backup and they save no money

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next year by moving on from him and

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they're like no we're going to take a 39

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and then a $46 million dead cap H the

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next two seasons because we have to get

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you out of here all right in a letter to

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Bronco country uh posted on social media

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Russ said tough times don't last but

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tough people do and he was excited for

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what's next so the question is this

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what's next here's the Vegas odds for

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Russ's next spot Steelers Raiders

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Falcons Patriots Vikings Brew caveat

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here is since Denver is paying his full

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salary he can play for the minimum which

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is 1.21 million Denver would pay the

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rest so where do you see Russ well I had

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not seen the odd when I came up with my

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list but p Pittsburgh makes the most

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sense and I can't I know the reports are

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saying they're not interested in Russ

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Justin Fields Kurt Cousins Baker M like

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I don't know what the Steelers are doing

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I used to be a huge Steelers fan as a

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kid like crazy Steelers as much as you

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Chief being from Iowa from Cincinnati

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cincin cuz my dad liked them cuz Joe

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Gillum was a black quarterback that they

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had before Bradshaw so my dad liked them

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so I liked them because my dad but I

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love the Steelers but if I were that big

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of a fan now I would be ticked off like

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what are they thinking you going to do

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this with Kenny picky who has 13

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touchdowns in like 24 starts in his

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career like if you they want to be nine

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and eight 10 and seven at best and get

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walloped in the postseason every year

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like and it doesn't have to be Russ Russ

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would not be my number one of those four

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guys I listed but I'm just saying if

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they're not going after the other three

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go get Russell Wilson for freaking a

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million dollars

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maybe at worst he's your starter and you

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can pick it I know p is like 25 almost

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26 but maybe pick can learn a little

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something by sitting on the bench I

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don't know but I'm just saying he's

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better than what you would admit he's

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better than Pi well I for the record I

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think Pittsburgh they like they might

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like Mason Rudolph more than Kenny

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picket I mean but even again again

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listen I wrote down Pittsburgh should do

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it but they I think these Vegas the

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Raiders I going to be the ra I if they

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if they don't can't move up and get a

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quarterback they want I don't think

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it'll be the Raiders what are they going

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to do at quarterback I think the Raiders

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have played Russell Wilson four times

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last two years they do not anyone that

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has watched him closely doesn't want him

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so I the and so what's interesting about

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these odds is you have Minnesota and

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Atlanta on there one of those is going

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to be eliminated cuz Kurt Cousins is

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going to be playing for one of them you

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know what I mean so

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like if they lose cousins if they guys I

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why not for a million for yeah for a

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million bucks maybe but then anyone that

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brings him in he is competing for a job

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so can I can I dig into that I know I

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said a million he can play for a million

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but there's a theory out there and a

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Florio did a lot of the digging on this

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that he can play for as low as a million

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but this is florio's theory that then

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the franchise is not financially

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invested in him so it's like ah million

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bucks now you know what we said start

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start you but we're going to sit you

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versus if you spend $20 million paying

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20 million I'm just saying if you $20

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million for a guy who's a starting

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quarterback is not a lot of money but

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then you have to show some commitment to

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your promise to have him start where

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it's a million it's like oh it's a

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million bucks yeah nobody is going to

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give him a commitment he his look

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Russ has and I've said this over the

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past two years he should be humbled he

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should be humbled he shouldn't be

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thinking about any office I'm sure he's

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not thinking about something like that

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but he should go somewhere for a million

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dollars a lot of people have tracked his

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start to his decline to when he started

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getting the huge money now whether you

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believe in that or not but I'm just

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saying right now he should have the

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attitude he had as a rookie going to

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Seattle when nobody thought he was going

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to start and he had to prove himself

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he's got to do it now okay I don't think

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this is a matter of Russell Wilson

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getting back to his roots he's not good

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anymore more so you're saying basically

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politely that he's washed I don't I I'm

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I I'm actually not trying to be that

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polite I for two years I've been trying

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to tell everyone and he has guys he Nat

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hackit couldn't make it through his

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season Nat hackit by but the end of his

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before the end of his first game as a

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head coach after an offseason training

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camp preseason and

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3.8 NFL quarters he was like hm better

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chance to win this football game this

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guy kicked the longest field goal of his

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life or Russell Wilson pick up six yards

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he's like I've seen enough go with the

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kicker doesn't make it through the year

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Shawn pyton could have any job he wanted

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everyone's like oh Denver gave him a

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bunch of money guess what Sean Bon's

13:11

going to make a boatload of money

13:13

anywhere goes there in part because he's

13:15

like I can fix that I'm so common I'm

13:17

and fix that tell the USA Today the

13:19

other coach was a bumbling fool cuz he

13:21

couldn't fix it Shawn Bon three weeks

13:24

three months into the season screaming

13:26

at him on the sideline and now get out

13:29

of here and they binge Carol the guys

13:34

I'm I'm here to tell you that he's can't

13:38

play at a starting NFL level anymore now

13:41

hold on Nick Nick what and I and I agree

13:45

with you cuz I watched those games too

13:47

yes I know and I was like he doesn't

13:50

look good they struggled mightily in the

13:52

red zone They I'm shocked he had 26

13:55

touchdowns cuz when you watch them it

13:57

didn't look like they had 26 touchdowns

13:59

but my point is he did have 26

14:01

touchdowns and I think he had three

14:02

rushing or 29 or whatever eight

14:05

interceptions 98 passer rating I know it

14:08

was only 205 yards a game but I'm just

14:10

saying that's starter quality low

14:14

starter so give us the team well it

14:16

should be Pittsburgh I think it'll be

14:18

the Raiders if it's not Pittsburgh um

14:21

you think Antonio Pierce is like it my

14:23

I'm

14:24

here go with Aid no they might draft a

14:28

guy they're going if they can move up

14:30

and drive somebody I think New England

14:32

will drive somebody I think Washington

14:34

will drive somebody Minnesota if they

14:36

lose cousins I think that could be the

14:38

place too so I for the I think for the

14:41

whoever loses out on these other guys I

14:42

think the place that makes the most

14:45

sense to bring him in and see could be

14:48

New England if because I I think New

14:51

England's the most likely team to take

14:53

advantage of the desperate Giants so the

14:55

Giants are at six New England's at three

14:58

New England's says you're a franchise

14:59

that hasn't done anything right in a

15:01

decade I would love to have a future

15:04

pick from you so you trade a six for

15:06

three and then the Patriots take whether

15:08

it's Joe Al or neighbors or you know

15:10

what I mean a blue chip guy that's a

15:11

non-quarterback and bring in Russ to

15:15

compete with M Jones Mac we're not

15:17

giving up on you but we're bringing in

15:19

competition let that play out I I think

15:22

it's a fresh start in New England to the

15:24

point where it might hurt my guy M Jones

15:26

I don't think that sounds very similar

15:29

to bring in Cam Newton yeah it's it's

15:32

just similar it's like you know what

15:33

this guy used to be great might not

15:36

still have it but I'm sure with a great

15:38

defense a little bit of running we can

15:40

make it work and it's it feels like a

15:44

Band-Aid for the franchise that needs to

15:46

really can I full real quick and I know

15:48

we have I'm glad you just said that

15:51

people see were totally willing

15:53

correctly to say Cam Newton wash I don't

15:58

don't know why people are hesitant to

16:00

say that about Russell Wilson I think

16:02

it's because we saw cam just he took so

16:04

many hits that we knew it was because

16:07

his body had betrayed him you know and

16:09

there's also that one in Dusty we used

16:10

to break out the stat like after that

16:12

one hit who was it oh we know it was I

16:15

think it was TJ watt yeah that there was

16:17

like a Line in the Sand where like Cam's

16:19

accuracy and sort of Deep Field passing

16:22

I listen to Russ and uh did a podcast

16:24

with Brandon

16:25

yesterday and he talked more about and

16:29

again it wasn't a long conversation

16:31

about specific injuries but he talked