"Empire's Laboratory": How 2004 U.S.-Backed Coup Destabilized Haiti & Led to Current Crisis

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Summary

TLDRThe ongoing crisis in Haiti is intensifying, with fighting between police and armed groups demanding the resignation of Prime Minister Ariel Henry. The country has been under a state of emergency for a week, displacing thousands and pushing the health system to the brink of collapse. International leaders are convening for emergency meetings, yet negotiations occur without significant Haitian public involvement. The roots of the crisis trace back to the 2004 coup, orchestrated by foreign powers, leading to a series of undemocratic political changes and the current unrest. Key figures like Guy Philippe, implicated in the 2004 coup and recently released from US prison, are now re-emerging, potentially influencing the situation. The crisis is a complex result of foreign intervention, oligarchic control, and a struggle for democracy and stability in Haiti.

Takeaways

  • πŸ›‘οΈ Haiti is currently experiencing ongoing conflict between police and armed groups demanding the resignation of the unelected Prime Minister Ariel Henry.
  • 🚨 The country has been under a state of emergency for the past week, with widespread displacement of people and a health system on the brink of collapse due to resource shortages.
  • πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ The US military airlifted nonessential staff out of Haiti and bolstered security at the US Embassy amidst the unrest.
  • 🌎 Caribbean leaders have called for an emergency meeting involving the US, France, Canada, the UN, and Brazil to address the situation.
  • πŸ›οΈ Ariel Henry was appointed Prime Minister following the assassination of President Jovenel MoΓ―se in July 2021 and has not returned to Haiti since.
  • πŸ” The crisis in Haiti has roots that go back to at least 2004, with the coup d'Γ©tat against the country's first democratically elected president, Jean-Bertrand Aristide.
  • 🌐 The 2004 coup was backed by the US, France, and Canada, leading to a UN-mandated multinational military force deployment in Haiti.
  • πŸ›οΈ Since the 2004 coup, Haiti has been under de facto occupation with unelected officials, including Prime Ministers, being appointed by foreign powers.
  • 🀝 Local Haitian groups have proposed solutions for the crisis, such as the Montana Accords and SALP, but these have been largely ignored by foreign powers.
  • πŸ”₯ Armed groups in Haiti are funded by the oligarchy, with some of the richest individuals in the country being sanctioned by the Canadian government for drug trafficking and funding armed groups.
  • πŸ—£οΈ The involvement of figures like Guy Philippe, a former coup leader trained by the US, adds complexity to the situation, with his recent release from prison and potential impact on current events.
  • 🌫️ The current situation in Haiti is a complex result of historical imperial interventions, local oligarchic control, and a lack of genuine inclusion of the Haitian masses in decision-making processes.

Q & A

  • What is the current situation in Haiti?

    -Fighting continues between police and armed groups calling for the resignation of the unelected Prime Minister Ariel Henry. The country has been under a state of emergency for the past week, with tens of thousands displaced and the health system nearing collapse due to shortages of staff, equipment, and other resources.

  • Who are the armed groups involved in the conflict?

    -The armed groups are paramilitary forces, which include former military and police officers. They are heavily armed and are calling themselves 'Viva,' which means 'live together,' a coalition of various armed young groups.

  • What is the historical context of the crisis in Haiti?

    -The crisis in Haiti has roots going back to 2004 when the US, France, and Canada backed a coup against the country's first democratically elected president, Jean-Bertrand Aristide. This led to a US Marine intervention and the establishment of an unelected government, which has continued to the present day.

  • What was the role of the US in the 2004 coup in Haiti?

    -The US played a significant role in the 2004 coup by backing it and sending US Marines to remove President Aristide from power. The US and France pushed the UN Security Council to send a multinational military force to Haiti, which was an illegal deployment under Chapter 7.

  • What happened to Haiti's elected officials after the 2004 coup?

    -After the 2004 coup, all 7,000 elected officials in Haiti were removed, and the country has been under military occupation since then. The occupation was led by an unelected group of Western officials, including Brazil, which controlled all actions in Haiti, including naming the Prime Minister.

  • What was the US' involvement in the 2010 Haitian elections?

    -In the 2010 elections, following the earthquake, the US pushed for elections and, according to Wikileaks, Hillary Clinton intervened to change the election results, forcing the Haitian Election Council to include Michel Martelly in the second round, leading to his election as president with less than 20% of the vote.

  • Where is Prime Minister Ariel Henry currently?

    -Prime Minister Ariel Henry is currently in Puerto Rico under FBI protection after having to leave his hotel due to protests from Haitian people living in Puerto Rico.

  • What is the US State Department's stance on the current situation in Haiti?

    -The US State Department is urging Prime Minister Henry to expedite the transition to an empowered and inclusive governance structure and prepare for a multinational security support mission to address the security situation and pave the way for free and fair elections.

  • Who is Guy Philippe and what is his role in the current crisis?

    -Guy Philippe is a former military officer who was involved in the 2004 coup against Aristide. He was trained by the US and played a role in the coup. After serving six years in a US prison for drug trafficking, he was returned to Haiti in November 2023 and is now claiming he wants to be president.

  • What is the connection between the armed groups and Haiti's oligarchy?

    -The armed groups are funded by part of the Haitian oligarchy, with some of the richest individuals in Haiti, such as Gilbert Beel Raino Deep and Sharif Abdallah, being sanctioned by the Canadian government for drug trafficking and funding these groups.

  • What is the significance of the alliance between the armed groups and the elite in Haiti?

    -The alliance between the armed groups and the elite signifies a consolidation of power and resources, with the elite providing funding and ammunition to the armed groups. This alliance is concerned about potential foreign interventions and the potential loss of their influence in Haitian society.

Outlines

00:00

πŸ‡­πŸ‡Ή Crisis in Haiti: The Battle for Stability

Haiti is experiencing severe unrest, with clashes between police and armed groups demanding the resignation of Prime Minister Ariel Henry. Amidst escalating violence, the U.S. military has evacuated nonessential staff, and Caribbean leaders call for an emergency meeting. Henry, who hasn't returned to Haiti following a trip, faces international pressure amidst negotiations for Haiti's future. The crisis, deeply rooted in historical political turbulence and international interventions, sees various factions within Haiti demanding change, highlighting the complexity and direness of the situation.

05:01

πŸ” Historical Context: Haiti's Political Strife and International Involvement

The political turmoil in Haiti is traced back to the 2004 coup d'Γ©tat against President Jean-Bertrand Aristide, leading to a UN-sanctioned multinational force and the country's prolonged occupation. This set a precedent for international involvement in Haitian politics, culminating in a series of contested elections and the rise of the PHTK political party. The recent assassination of President Jovenel MoΓ―se has further destabilized the nation, leaving Haiti without elected officials and in a state of uncertainty, exacerbated by foreign interventions and internal disputes.

10:02

🌐 Haiti's Crisis: A Call for Inclusive Governance and Internal Reflection

Amid the current crisis, there's a call for Prime Minister Ariel Henry to facilitate an empowered, inclusive governance structure. Despite external pressures, including from the U.S., for Henry's resignation, there's a broader recognition of the need for Haitian-led solutions and acknowledgments of external influences exacerbating internal divisions. The discussion highlights the importance of considering Haiti's historical context, the role of international actors, and the urgent need for genuine dialogue and reforms that engage all sectors of Haitian society.

15:04

βš–οΈ Geopolitical Maneuvers and Haiti's Path Forward

The crisis in Haiti reveals deep-rooted issues tied to historical events, notably the 2004 coup d'Γ©tat. The involvement of figures like Guy Philippe, who is implicated in both past conflicts and current dynamics, underscores the complexity of Haiti's political landscape. Amidst calls for leadership changes and an end to violence, there's an emerging unity among various factions against Prime Minister Ariel Henry's leadership. The role of international actors, particularly in supporting unpopular governments, is critically examined, highlighting the need for a Haitian-led process in addressing the nation's challenges.

20:05

πŸ”¬ Analyzing Haiti's Political Laboratory: Empire's Influence and Future Directions

The crisis in Haiti is portrayed as a consequence of imperial ambitions, with the 2004 coup marking a pivotal moment in its history. This discussion underlines the strategic interests of foreign powers in Haiti and the implications for its sovereignty and stability. The analysis calls for a recognition of Haiti's autonomy in resolving its crises, urging a departure from patterns of external interference and a move towards self-determined governance and development.

Mindmap

Keywords

πŸ’‘Haiti

Haiti is a Caribbean country that has been facing political instability and violence. In the context of the video, it is experiencing ongoing conflict between the police and armed groups, leading to a state of emergency and a humanitarian crisis.

πŸ’‘Ariel HRI

Ariel HRI is the unelected Prime Minister of Haiti who has been called to resign by various sectors within the country. His appointment is a point of contention and is linked to the broader political crisis in Haiti.

πŸ’‘State of Emergency

A state of emergency is a situation in which a government declares that a public emergency, disaster, or crisis has occurred, allowing for special powers to be enacted. In the video, Haiti has been under such a state for a week due to the escalating violence and displacement of people.

πŸ’‘Health System Collapse

The collapse of a health system refers to the inability of healthcare infrastructure to provide necessary services, often due to overwhelming demand or lack of resources. In the context of the video, Haiti's health system is nearing collapse because of staff and equipment shortages, exacerbated by the increasing number of wounded patients from the violence.

πŸ’‘US Military

The US Military refers to the armed forces of the United States, which in this context conducted an operation to airlift nonessential US staff out of Haiti and to enhance security at the US Embassy. This reflects the US's involvement in the situation, albeit in a limited capacity focused on American citizens' safety.

πŸ’‘CARICOM

CARICOM is the Caribbean Community, a group of Caribbean nations and territories that cooperates on economic, social, and foreign policy issues. In the video, CARICOM leaders have called for an emergency meeting to address the crisis in Haiti, indicating regional concern and potential collective action.

πŸ’‘Imperialism

Imperialism refers to a policy or ideology by a nation or government that maintains or extends its power and influence over other countries, often through colonization, military force, or economic dominance. In the video, Haiti is described as a 'laboratory for US Imperial machinations,' suggesting that the US has historically exerted significant control over Haiti's political landscape.

πŸ’‘2004 Coup

The 2004 coup refers to the overthrow of Haiti's then-president Jean-Bertrand Aristide, which was facilitated by foreign powers, including the US, France, and Canada. This event is pivotal to understanding the current crisis in Haiti, as it led to a period of instability and foreign intervention that continues to impact the country's political situation.

πŸ’‘Oligarchy

An oligarchy is a form of government where power is held by a small group of people, often the wealthy or influential. In the context of the video, the term refers to the Haitian elite who are said to be funding the armed groups, thus playing a significant role in the ongoing violence and political unrest.

πŸ’‘GE Philippe

GE Philippe, or Guy Philippe, is a former Haitian police officer who played a role in the 2004 coup against Aristide. He was later imprisoned in the US for drug trafficking but is now back in Haiti, potentially influencing the current political landscape.

πŸ’‘Barbecue

Barbecue, also known as Cherizier, is the leader of one of the most powerful armed groups in Haiti. He and his group are significant actors in the current conflict, and their actions contribute to the violence and instability in the country.

Highlights

Fighting continues in Haiti between police and armed groups calling for the resignation of the unelected Prime Minister Ariel Henry.

Haiti has been under a state of emergency for the past week, with tens of thousands displaced due to the fighting.

UN officials warn that Haiti's health system is nearing collapse due to shortages of staff, equipment, and other resources.

The US military conducted an overnight mission to airlift nonessential US staff out of Haiti and to boost security at the US Embassy.

Caribbean leaders have called for an emergency meeting in Jamaica, inviting the US, France, Canada, the UN, and Brazil.

Ariel Henry was appointed Prime Minister after the assassination of President Jovenel MoΓ―se in July 2021.

The crisis in Haiti is rooted in the 2004 coup, which was backed by the US, France, and Canada.

The 2004 coup led to the multinational occupation of Haiti and the restructuring of its government.

Haiti has not had any elected officials since 2016, when Jocelerme Privert was selected by the Core Group.

The US and other foreign powers have a history of interfering in Haitian politics, including the 2004 coup and the 2010 elections.

The current situation in Haiti is a result of the destruction of the Haitian state following the 2004 coup.

Armed groups in Haiti are paramilitary forces, consisting of former military and police officers.

The US government is hypocritical in its stance on Haiti, having supported the unelected Prime Minister who they now urge to transition power.

The funding for armed groups in Haiti comes from the oligarchy, including some of the richest individuals in the country.

GEDE Philippe, who played a role in the 2004 coup, has been released from US prison and is now back in Haiti.

The alliance between armed groups and the elite in Haiti is a significant development in the current crisis.

The US and the Core Group continue to control the situation in Haiti, influencing the country's political landscape.

The people of Haiti, particularly the poor, are the ones suffering the most in the ongoing crisis.

The crisis in Haiti is a complex issue with historical roots and ongoing foreign interference.

Transcripts

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We Begin Today's Show in Haiti where

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fighting continues between police and

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armed groups calling for the resignation

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of the unelected Prime Minister Ariel

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HRI over the weekend police and Palace

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guards work to retake some streets in

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the capital PTO Prince after armed gangs

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launch large scale attacks on at least

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three police stations Haiti's been under

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a state of emergency for the past week

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with tens of thousands displaced amidst

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the fighting un officials are warning

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hadi's health system is nearing collapse

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due to shortages of Staff equipment and

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other resources to treat a growing

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number of wounded patients meanwhile the

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US military said Sunday it conducted an

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overnight mission to airlift

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nonessential us staff out of Haiti and

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to boost security at the US Embassy in

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PTO France Caribbean leaders issued a

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call late Friday for an emergency

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meeting today in Jamaica they've invited

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the United United States France Canada

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the UN and Brazil to the meeting carom

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the 15 Nation Caribbean block said in a

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statement quote the situation on the

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ground remains

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dire Ariel HRI was appointed prime

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minister after the July 2021

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assassination of President jovenel Moise

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HRI still has not returned to Haiti

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after a trip to Kenya where he was

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seeking a deal for a long delayed un

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back mission to Haiti Kenya announced

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last year it would lead the force but it

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has effectively been placed on hold HRI

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arrived in Puerto Rico Tuesday after he

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was unable to land in the Dominican

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Republic with the Dominican president

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saying enri was not welcome in the

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country for safety reasons for more

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we're joined by Jima Pierre professor at

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the Social Justice Institute at the

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University of British Columbia in Canada

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and research associate at the University

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of Johan hburg she's a Haitian American

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Scholar and co-coordinator of the black

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Alliance for peces Haiti americ team

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which has been closely following the

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crisis in Haiti a recent article for NOA

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is headlined Haiti as Empire's

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laboratory Professor Pierre welcome back

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to welcome to democracy Now can you

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start off by describing what you

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understand is the latest on the ground

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who the armed groups are um and the

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different sectors of Haitian society

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that are joining together with those

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armed gangs and calling for the

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resignation of the elect unelected prime

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minister

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HRI uh good morning thank you so much

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for having me um Amy um I what one of

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the things that we need to to uh just

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start off with is just these are par

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paramilitary U forces um um I think

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gangs is an in insufficient name for

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them because a lot of them are former U

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military and former police officers and

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they're heavily armed um what's

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happening is a bunch of different groups

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coming together um to to say and they

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call themselves now Viva which is live

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together uh bunch of uh different

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various uh various armed young groups

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young men um in groups to say that they

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want to get rid of Aya now we hear that

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there are negotiations happening around

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the clock um and apparently there's

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supposed to be negotiations going on

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today um I think in Jamaica or by the

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CARICOM countries that include the US

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France and Canada um the the problem

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though is the fact that there all these

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negotiations going on outside of Haiti

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by many foreigners with no main

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participation from the Haitian masses

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and I think you know we have to go back

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and understand that the the root of this

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crisis is not last week it's not this

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week it's not even I but we have to go

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back to 2004 with the

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coua so take us on that Journey back um

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if you'll give us the historical context

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uh in your piece uh you uh it's

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headlined Haiti as Empire's laboratory

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in it you wrate Haiti has been and

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continues to be the main laboratory for

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us Imperial machinations in the region

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and throughout the world

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explain yes definitely you know we say

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the the crisis in Haiti is a crisis of

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imperialism in 2004 um as has been

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revealed and admitted to the US France

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and Canada got together and backed a

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Cuda against the the country's first

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democratically elected president ja Jon

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AR um and the US Marines flew into his

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home put him on a plane um with his

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security officials his his his wife and

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Aid and flew them to the Central African

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Republic and people can actually go to

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the Democracy Now archives which covered

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this live and I remember listening to

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this happening live and um and the the

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point of this was that this kudeta which

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was led by two permanent members of the

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UN Security Council was then sanctioned

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by the UN when these same two members of

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the UN Security Council and that's us

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and France um basically pushed the UN

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Security Council into sending a

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multinational um military force to Haiti

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um arm under chapter 7 deployment and

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that itself was illegal because the

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original OCC the original kud was

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illegal the US ambassador to Haiti and

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the deputy Ambassador were in the

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process they're the ones that named to

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the interim um president would be put

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together a council of sages that

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basically restructured um Haiti's

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elected president and back then we had

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7,000 um elected officials today we have

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zero and over time time I say Haiti has

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been under occupation because it is this

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military occupation the minister

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occupation that's went from 2004 uh

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2004 2007 that established the core

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group that it's an unelected group of

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Western officials including Brazil which

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led the military armor of the occupation

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in 2004 under Lula which led then uh

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which has been controlling all the

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actions in Haiti down to naming who the

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Prime Minister would be uh arel after

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the assassination of xiz I have to

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quickly say though one of the key things

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that happened is in

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2010 after the earthquake in Haiti that

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killed hundreds of thousands where the

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US pushed the sitting president um Rene

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pral to have elections and in the

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Wikileaks papers revealed to us uh late

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uh later that Hillary Clinton actually

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flew to Haiti and changed a election

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result where um Michelle Martelli of the

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phtk political party did not make the

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first round but the US forced um the the

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Haitian election Council to actually

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make him put him the final in the second

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round and so establishing the pH phtk

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Michelle martii a Neo Dev is as hades's

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president with under 20% of the people

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voting with the largest um political

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party party in Haiti lavalas not being

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able to participate we set the stage for

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what we see today so by the time we get

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to alya being imposed on the Haitian

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people by the Core group we have no

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elected officials because Michelle

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matelli basically under him we lost a

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lot of we we didn't have many elections

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and then he put in his prot jovenel moiz

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who was also unpopular and didn't run

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any elections so we actually haven't had

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any elections in Haiti since 2016 when

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Janes was put was selected for us by the

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core group and so to understand what's

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going on in Haiti we have to understand

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how the original moment of the 2004

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kudeta led us to the complete

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destruction of the Haitian State and if

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we don't do that we don't understand

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these current flareups where people are

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saying they want their democracy back

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and saying that whatever negotiations

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that are happening outside of Haiti has

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nothing to do with them because it has

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not included them you know when we went

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to the Central African Republic in a

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small plane uh with US Congress member

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Maxine Waters and the late founder of

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transafrica Randall Robinson and a

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Jamaican MP um we flew to the Central

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African Republic they went to retrieve

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the aristedes who' been put there by the

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United States and as we were flying back

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over the Atlantic um they got word um

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from that Bo that Rumsfeld condesa rice

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and colon Powell were saying that the

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aristedes were not to return to this

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hemisphere were not to return to Haiti

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to which Randall Robinson replied who's

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hemisphere um and so he was not able to

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land in Port in uh Haiti and went into

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Exile in South Africa where you have

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also taught for many years for over

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seven years and then we went to South

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Africa when he finally returned to um to

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Haiti and people can see all of those

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reports at democracynow.org

09:29

but I'm wondering I wanted to um talk

09:33

about the latest news the Miami Herold

09:36

reporting that Secretary of State

09:38

Anthony blinken spoke by phone Thursday

09:42

with Haitian prime minister Ariel Anri

09:44

in a series of calls that officials

09:46

described as tense this is the US state

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department spokesperson Matthew Miller

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speaking Wednesday about the violence in

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Haiti as the situation on the ground

09:57

grows increasingly dire we and car have

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continued to call on stakeholders

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including the prime minister to make

10:03

concessions in the interest of the the

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Haitian people so we are not calling on

10:08

him or pushing for him to resign but we

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are urging him to expedite the

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transition to an empowered and inclusive

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governance structure that will move with

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urgency to help the country prepare for

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a multinational security support mission

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to address the security situation and

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PVE the way for free and fair elections

10:25

but jacn charl the Miami Herald reporter

10:27

said that the that um the US was pushing

10:31

ARL enri to resign what do you

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understand Professor Pierre about the

10:36

latest and also even where he is is he

10:39

still in Puerto Rico unable to get back

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to Haiti yeah he's in Puerto Rico under

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FBI uh uh protection um he had to leave

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the hotel he was in when he first landed

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because Haitian um Haitian uh people

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living in Puerto Rico were protesting

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his presence in in in the state and so

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that's important you know the uh the the

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US government is is being extremely

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hypocritical here because in 2004 when

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the US Marines landed at er se's house

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put him on a plane and and told the

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world that he resigned before the plane

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even landed in in in Central African

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Republic and basically uh put in power a

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whole new government and now they're

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saying that this unelected prime

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minister that they put in place refuses

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to resign where he actually has no uh

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legitimacy and no mandate whatsoever I

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also want to say quickly um uh just to

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touch back to the the question earlier

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is the reason I say Hai is a laboratory

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because this is the first school they T

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that was sanctioned by the UN and Haiti

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was ruled by a multilateral CO Coalition

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of all these countries and so the un uh

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uh occupation of Haiti on through Mina

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and through the core group is multi

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multinational multi-racial and it almost

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seems as if this is a humanitarian

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effort as opposed to a couet that has

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been uh uh successful and so the whole

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world is participating in the occupation

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of Haiti unwittingly because and this is

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how we have to remember how the US will

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work and they will use their proxies to

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do the the dirty work for them and I and

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and I want to say what's happening today

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on the ground with CARICOM is also a

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problem because back in 2004 PJ

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Patterson who was the leaders who was in

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The Who was the president of CARICOM was

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very much against the removal of Haiti

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sitting president in fact he refused to

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acknowledge the the impulse um uh

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government that the US put on us um and

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um and and but now CARICOM is playing a

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different where they're bringing the US

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France and Canada the the people who did

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the original sin to pick our leaders

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again and so the problem is if this go

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goes on and if they don't take into

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account other uh uh solutions that

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Haitians have been putting together you

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know 20 early 2021 you had la laas come

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up with salip which means that we need

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to start over uh and change the system

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we had the Montana Accords we have local

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uh groups that actually had a solution

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before the moiz assassination the US

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government was trying to protect moiz

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and basically ignored all these local

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Solutions and so now they cannot say

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that they're here to help Haiti as much

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as trying to figure out how to put in

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place another unpopular and illegal

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government and so then we'll have the

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same problem a few uh a few years down

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the line the other thing I want to

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quickly say I know in a hurry is that

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the the people funding these armed

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groups are the part of the oligarchy and

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um and most of the guns and ammunition

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are coming from the US people must

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remember that in the late 2022 and early

13:48

2023 the Canadian government sanctioned

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three of the um the richest uh oligarchs

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in Haiti that's jilbert beel raino deep

13:57

and Sharif abdalah the Canadian

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government also sanctioned former

14:01

president Michelle Martelli um and other

14:04

in loala his his prime minister all of

14:08

them because they for drug trafficking

14:10

but also for funding these uh these

14:13

armed groups and so in the news we get

14:16

you get these guys that look you know

14:19

like raggedy ragged and poor but then

14:22

the people really funding them because

14:24

he does not manufactur guns are these

14:26

Elites that are that are that are that

14:29

are behind all the violence and so I

14:31

also want put to put that um in into

14:34

into very clear context so that we know

14:36

that this is a very complex problem

14:38

that's very much set up by the the 2004

14:42

coup but also perpetuated by the

14:44

oligarch and the US which work together

14:47

to keep Haiti unstable so that we can

14:49

say Haiti is ungovernable and we need to

14:52

come in and save it can you explain who

14:55

GE Philip is uh who just left left us

14:59

prison in November his role in the coup

15:03

in 2004 and now what he's

15:07

doing right and this is very important

15:10

thank you for asking this gefy leap is

15:12

was around in 2004 in fact gefy leap was

15:15

trained by the US in Ecuador and spent a

15:19

lot of time training in living and

15:21

training in the Dominican Republic so um

15:24

in the leadup to the cud against arist

15:26

state in 2004 what you have is all the

15:29

fall of 200 um 2003 what you had Gip and

15:33

his armed groups would ransack would

15:35

Crossing to the border and ransack and

15:37

attack police stations and so on and so

15:39

forth back then which is fascinating if

15:41

you look up in the news the Western

15:43

media portrayed him has a freedom

15:45

frighter um he was the hero standing up

15:48

against the evil a seed according to the

15:50

west and so they supported him um and

15:53

and he would say later that he was

15:54

actually being funded by the CIA and and

15:57

so on and then as soon as you know what

15:59

happens you know once they remove arist

16:01

what you have is the uh the triy they

16:04

try to integrate these former arm

16:06

military groups into the Haitian

16:08

National Police because AED had

16:09

disbanded the Army and so what you have

16:11

is that's why I say we have to call

16:13

these paramilitaries because these are

16:14

former um uh uh armed groups that

16:17

actually were funded by Outsiders to ask

16:20

our democratically elected president and

16:22

here we are Gip was in um arrested by

16:25

the US and put in prison for drug

16:27

trafficking and and we have to

16:29

understand this because even during his

16:31

trial there are certain things that were

16:32

kept secret because it implicated the US

16:34

government and so he served six years in

16:37

prison um as a criminal in the US and

16:40

now the US dumped him in Haiti in

16:42

November

16:44

2023 uh after serving um six year of a

16:47

nine-year term and so now he's back

16:50

running around saying he wants to be

16:51

president and he's getting you know

16:53

you're saying Hades you know everyone

16:55

pretends that you know are saying that

16:57

Hades is at War and so on and so forth

16:59

but the reality is GE Philip is giving

17:01

interviews to all the mainstream press

17:03

GE Philip gives more interviews than the

17:05

local people who are organizing against

17:07

repression we don't hear them in the

17:09

Washington Post but we hear GE phip so I

17:11

wonder what the US role is for GE Philip

17:14

right now and as far as I'm concerned he

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