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Summary

TLDRThis transcript is a lively discussion between NFL Draft experts Ryan Wilson and Rick Spielman, analyzing standout performances and potential draft prospects from the 2024 NFL Combine in Indianapolis. They highlight impressive showings from running backs like Trey Benson and Ray Davis, wide receivers like Xavier Legette and Adon Mitchell, and debate the decision of top prospect Marvin Harrison Jr. to skip workouts. With insightful analysis, personal anecdotes, and friendly banter, the experts offer a comprehensive breakdown of the Combine's impact on player draft stocks as the upcoming NFL Draft approaches.

Takeaways

  • πŸ‘Ÿ The 2024 NFL Combine showcased top prospects trying to improve their draft stock through on-field drills and workouts.
  • πŸ’¨ Running back Trey Benson from Florida State stood out with an impressive 4.39-second 40-yard dash time and explosive athletic testing, overcoming a major knee injury.
  • πŸƒβ€β™‚οΈ Kentucky's Ray Davis also shined with a 4.52-second 40-yard dash time and an inspiring backstory of overcoming adversity.
  • πŸ‘Ž Some running backs like Dylan Johnson from Washington and Audric EstimΓ© from Notre Dame underwhelmed with slower 40 times.
  • πŸ‘½ Wide receiver Xavier Legette from South Carolina enhanced his draft stock with a 4.39-second 40-yard dash at 221 pounds.
  • πŸ”₯ Texas' Adon Mitchell ran an electric 4.35-second 40-yard dash and could sneak into the first round of the draft.
  • 🀐 Top prospect Marvin Harrison Jr. did not work out or speak at the Combine, leading to criticism from former GM Rick Spielman.
  • ⁉️ Top quarterback prospects like Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels, and Drake May also did not work out, raising questions about what they might be trying to hide.
  • πŸ—£οΈ Spielman believes players not fully participating at the Combine are being influenced by agents trying to control the event.
  • πŸ’Ό Spielman emphasizes the Combine as a critical job interview and medical evaluation for prospects entering the NFL.

Q & A

  • What was the focus of this segment?

    -This segment focused on the performances of various prospects at the 2024 NFL Combine, particularly the running backs and wide receivers.

  • Which running back impressed Rick Spielman the most?

    -Rick Spielman was most impressed by Trey Benson from Florida State, who ran a 4.39 40-yard dash at 6 feet and 220 pounds, and showed great explosiveness despite coming back from a serious knee injury.

  • What did Ryan Wilson like about the performance of Adonna Mitchell?

    -Ryan Wilson was impressed by Adonna Mitchell's combination of size, speed, and agility. Mitchell ran a 4.35 40-yard dash and had a 39.5-inch vertical leap, which stood out for a player of his size.

  • Which running back did Ryan Wilson feel underperformed at the Combine?

    -Ryan Wilson felt that Dylan Johnson from Washington underperformed by running a 4.68 40-yard dash, which was slower than he expected based on Johnson's game film.

  • Which wide receiver prospect did not participate in drills or interviews at the Combine?

    -Marvin Harrison Jr., a top wide receiver prospect, did not participate in drills or interviews at the Combine.

  • What was Rick Spielman's opinion on players not participating in Combine activities?

    -Rick Spielman was critical of players who did not participate in Combine activities, believing that they should take the opportunity to showcase their abilities and complete medical evaluations, as the Combine is designed for teams to evaluate prospects comprehensively.

  • Which top quarterback prospects did not work out at the Combine?

    -The top three quarterback prospects, Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels, and Drake May, did not work out at the Combine.

  • What did Rick Spielman suggest these quarterbacks should do to make up for not working out at the Combine?

    -Rick Spielman suggested that these quarterbacks should plan to throw at their respective pro days, as teams will want to see them perform the primary task they will be paid to do in the NFL.

  • What concern did Rick Spielman raise about Jaden Daniels' decision not to weigh in at the Combine?

    -Rick Spielman expressed concern that by not weighing in at the Combine, Jaden Daniels may be trying to hide something, such as being underweight, which could affect his draft stock if teams don't have accurate information about his physical measurements.

  • What example did Rick Spielman use to illustrate his point about players not participating in Combine activities?

    -Rick Spielman used the example of Ryan Wilson going to a job interview and refusing to perform tasks like reading reports on camera, suggesting that it would be considered wrong and could hurt his chances of getting the job.

Outlines

00:00

🏈 NFL Combine Standout Performances

The segment discusses standout performances from running backs and wide receivers at the 2024 NFL Combine in Indianapolis. Rick Spielman highlights running backs Trey Benson from Florida State and Ray Davis from Kentucky, who impressed with their speed and athleticism. Ryan Wilson praises wide receivers Xavier Legette from South Carolina and Adonai Mitchell from Texas for their exceptional 40-yard dash times and vertical jumps, potentially boosting their draft stock. The segment also touches on underwhelming performances from Dylan Johnson from Washington and Audric EstimΓ© from Notre Dame, whose slower 40 times could impact their draft prospects.

05:01

πŸ—£οΈ Marvin Harrison Jr.'s Combine Absence

The discussion turns to wide receiver Marvin Harrison Jr., who chose not to participate in drills or interviews at the NFL Combine. Rick Spielman expresses his disapproval of players who opt out of combine activities, believing they should participate fully in this critical job interview process. However, he acknowledges that Harrison Jr.'s on-field performance speaks for itself, and he would likely select him with the 4th overall pick if he were the Arizona Cardinals' general manager. The segment also highlights the importance of the combine for teams to conduct medical evaluations and interviews with prospects.

10:02

⁉️ Top Quarterback Prospects' Combine Absence

The conversation shifts to the absence of the top three quarterback prospects - Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels, and Drake May - from the NFL Combine. Rick Spielman expresses his concern over prospects who choose not to participate in crucial combine activities, suggesting that their advisors may be influencing these decisions. He emphasizes the significance of the combine for teams to evaluate prospects' physical measurements, medical evaluations, and on-field drills. The segment underscores the potential impact of not participating on a player's draft stock, using the example of a previous prospect whose weight uncertainty affected his draft position.

Mindmap

Keywords

πŸ’‘NFL Combine

The NFL Combine is an annual event where college football players perform physical and mental tests in front of coaches, general managers, and scouts from all 32 NFL teams. It is a crucial part of the NFL draft process, allowing teams to evaluate prospects' athletic abilities, measurables, and overall potential. The video script discusses the 2024 NFL Combine, where top prospects like running backs, wide receivers, and quarterbacks showcased their talents in various drills and tests.

πŸ’‘Draft Stock

Draft stock refers to a prospect's perceived value and projected draft position leading up to the NFL draft. A player's draft stock can rise or fall based on their performance at the Combine, pro days, and other evaluations. The script mentions that some players at the 2024 Combine were able to improve their draft stock with impressive performances, while others may have seen their stock drop due to subpar showings.

πŸ’‘40-Yard Dash

The 40-yard dash is a crucial drill at the NFL Combine that measures a player's straight-line speed. Prospects, especially skill position players like running backs and wide receivers, are timed as they sprint 40 yards. The script highlights the 40-yard dash times of various players, such as Trey Benson (4.39 seconds) and Adon Mitchell (4.35 seconds), and how those times impacted their draft stock evaluations.

πŸ’‘Vertical Jump

The vertical jump is another important test at the NFL Combine that measures a player's lower body explosiveness and leaping ability. It is particularly relevant for positions that require jumping, such as wide receivers and defensive backs. The script mentions that Trey Benson was impressive in his vertical jump drills, which complemented his impressive 40-yard dash time.

πŸ’‘Pro Day

A pro day is an event held at a college campus where NFL prospects can perform various drills and tests for scouts and team representatives. It allows players to showcase their skills in a familiar environment and potentially improve their numbers from the Combine. The script mentions that some players who had subpar performances at the Combine may have opportunities to redeem themselves at their pro days later in the spring.

πŸ’‘Medical Evaluations

At the NFL Combine, prospects undergo extensive medical evaluations, including physical examinations, injury history reviews, and various tests. These evaluations are crucial for teams to assess a player's overall health and potential injury risks. The script highlights the importance of medical evaluations, as Rick Spielman (a former NFL GM) emphasizes that teams often refer back to a player's Combine medical records even years later when considering trades or free agent signings.

πŸ’‘Interviews

In addition to physical tests, prospects at the NFL Combine participate in formal interviews with teams. These interviews allow teams to get to know a player's personality, character, football intelligence, and overall fit with their organization. The script mentions that even players who choose not to participate in certain drills still attend interviews with teams, as these interactions are a critical part of the evaluation process.

πŸ’‘Agents

Agents play a significant role in the NFL draft process, often advising their clients (the prospects) on various decisions, such as whether to participate in certain drills or events like the NFL Combine. The script highlights a perspective from Rick Spielman, who believes that some agents may be taking too much control over the Combine by discouraging their clients from fully participating, which could be viewed as a selfish approach.

πŸ’‘Measurables

Measurables refer to a player's physical attributes, such as height, weight, arm length, and hand size, which are recorded at the NFL Combine. These measurements are essential for teams to evaluate a prospect's potential fit for specific positions and schemes. The script mentions instances where some players chose not to weigh or measure themselves at the Combine, which could raise concerns or questions about what they might be trying to hide.

πŸ’‘Prospect Evaluation

Prospect evaluation is the overall process of assessing a player's potential and projecting their future success at the professional level. It involves analyzing various factors, including physical abilities, on-field performance, character, and intangibles. The NFL Combine is a critical component of this evaluation process, allowing teams to gather comprehensive data and insights on prospects before making draft decisions that can significantly impact their organizations.

Highlights

The 2024 NFL combine in Indianapolis showcased top skill position prospects trying to improve their draft stock.

Trey Benson, a running back from Florida State, stood out with his impressive size, speed (4.39 40-yard dash), and ability to overcome a serious knee injury.

Ray Davis from Kentucky ran a 4.52 40-yard dash and had a great Senior Bowl performance, overcoming his challenging upbringing in foster care.

Dylan Johnson from Washington had a disappointing 4.68 40-yard dash time but is known for his toughness and ability to move the pile.

Audric Estime from Notre Dame ran a 4.71 40-yard dash, which was slower than expected, but he is a workhorse-type back who wears down defenses.

Xavier Legette, a wide receiver from South Carolina, impressed with his 4.39 40-yard dash and vertical jump, showcasing his speed and explosiveness.

Adonai Mitchell from Texas ran an impressive 4.35 40-yard dash and had a 39.5-inch vertical jump, solidifying his potential as a first-round draft pick.

Marvin Harrison Jr., a top wide receiver prospect, chose not to work out or speak at the combine, raising concerns about selfishness and potential team fit.

Top quarterback prospects Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels, and Drake Maye did not participate in workouts at the combine.

Jaden Daniels did not even weigh or measure at the combine, raising questions about what he might be trying to hide.

Rick Spielman, a former NFL GM, expressed concern about players not participating in the combine, suggesting agents may be trying to take over the event.

The combine is designed for teams to evaluate prospects comprehensively, including medical examinations and formal interviews.

Players skipping parts of the combine could negatively impact their draft stock and future trade or free agency potential.

The combine is a crucial job interview for prospects, and not participating fully could be seen as putting themselves ahead of the team.

Pro days provide additional opportunities for prospects to showcase their skills and address any concerns from the combine.

Transcripts

00:00

NFL off season officially underway with

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the 2024 NFL combine coming to a close

00:05

this weekend out in Indianapolis

00:07

Saturday a chance to see the top skill

00:09

position prospects try to improve their

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draft stock some guys Turning Heads

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others maybe need some work at their Pro

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days later this spring but who stood out

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to our CBS Sports Draft experts so as we

00:22

wrap up our coverage out in Indie we

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welcome back our draft Insider Ryan

00:25

Wilson and former NFL GM Rick Spielman

00:28

who have been holding it down all week

00:30

long and Indie guys we are at the Finish

00:33

Line at this point so you're going to

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give us some thoughts on your best

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performances and the not so great

00:38

performances from over at Lucas Oil so

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let's get started with the running back

00:41

Rick who did you love on the field today

00:44

out of that

00:45

group yeah the guy that really stuck out

00:47

to me the most was Trey Benson the

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running back from Florida State uh he

00:52

was 6 foot almost 220 lbs and ran 439 he

00:55

was very explosive on his vertical jumps

00:58

this kid just intrigues me because he

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was a transfer from Oregon he blew his

01:03

knee out maybe the worst knee injury

01:05

I've seen since Teddy Bridgewater and he

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comes back and runs a 4-39 and has a

01:10

great season for the Florida state

01:12

seminal so this kid has overcome a lot

01:15

you see the speed in the open field and

01:17

that showed up today when he ran the 40

01:19

yard dash so the Medicals cleared there

01:21

Rick are you at all concerned about that

01:23

if you're going to take him let's say in

01:24

the second round not after I see what he

01:26

did here and what he did on tape yeah no

01:28

he went absolutely Bonkers today and

01:29

obviously that that book ended a great

01:31

season for me I'm going to go with Ray

01:32

Davis out of Kentucky and he ran for

01:35

over a th yards there he ran for over a

01:37

th yards at Vanderbuilt he ran a 452 and

01:40

that is plenty fast I think he plays

01:42

faster than that he can make guys miss

01:43

in the hole and obviously he's going to

01:44

make guys miss in space and then outrun

01:46

them to the end zone he was a spark plug

01:48

for that offense at Kentucky uh had the

01:50

great season had the great Senior Bowl

01:52

and Then followed it up uh with the the

01:54

great performance here in Indianapolis

01:56

and also a fantastic story Rick he he

01:57

lived in a foster home and he overcame

01:59

so so much just to get to this point and

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uh you appreciate young men having an

02:04

opportunity to to show themselves after

02:06

overcoming some uh some serious

02:08

circumstances when you're talking to

02:09

guys like that in the interview process

02:11

I would imagine there's very few things

02:13

you think they can't overcome when

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they've had to overcome so much already

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yeah no it's an incredible story about

02:18

him sacrificing him staying in a

02:20

homeless shelter so his brother and

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sister can get to a foster care system

02:24

and getting a foster home so this kid

02:26

has sacrificed all his life and when you

02:28

hear stories like this that and that kid

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overcoming everything he had to overcome

02:33

it's just a phenomenal story and that's

02:35

why when you draft a guy like this you

02:37

don't bet against him yeah I remember

02:39

too uh he had that standout performance

02:40

against Florida earlier this year where

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he had 280 yards and three touchdowns

02:44

along with a nine yard receiving score

02:46

as well so he's definitely going to be a

02:48

problem at the next level now on the

02:50

other side of the coin guys for some of

02:52

the guys it wasn't their best day so

02:54

Ryan who's a player who you thought just

02:56

didn't have the juice during the running

02:58

back drills on Saturday

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and Rick this is one of the toughest

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kids in college football Dylan Johnson

03:04

the the running back out of Washington

03:05

he ran a 468 today he plays faster than

03:08

that and remember the toughness he

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showed in the championship game against

03:11

Michigan where he was banged up in that

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game and they leaned on him and he tried

03:14

to do the best he could he wasn't even

03:15

close to 100% but when he is 100% he's

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an absolute bulldog and you can see him

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move to pile here I'll just ask you this

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does the 468 move the needle in terms of

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where you had him or is he still going

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to be a day three guy like you thought

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before we came into end no he'll still

03:28

be a day three guy may go down in day

03:30

three just because of the 40 time and

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it's a skill position uh but he'll get

03:34

an opportunity to maybe improve that

03:36

once he gets to uh Washington's pro day

03:39

what do you think who do you have for

03:40

your uh guy that you like to steal more

03:42

from oh my God my guy was worse than

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your

03:45

guy now so audri uh estimate the running

03:49

back out of uh Notre Dame he ran 471

03:53

today now he's a big thick back and if

03:56

you watched him in the last game of the

03:58

season against Stanford he had four

03:59

touchdown runs over 230 yards rushing uh

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he's what I call a singles double hitter

04:06

I thought he got run down in the open

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field once he got in space but he's a

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type of guy that you have to give the

04:13

ball and he's going to wear down

04:15

defenses and if he gets the ball 15 20

04:18

times a game when he gets to the NFL

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that's when he becomes more productive

04:22

than just giving it two or three times

04:24

so I know he didn't run fast but he is a

04:27

really good running back this made M

04:29

knock him down some draft boards but a

04:31

very good football player but one of

04:33

those Workhorse tight backs whether

04:35

instead of those electric guys that come

04:37

off uh the bench on the sideline from

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the sideline yeah the good news is is

04:41

pro days still happening later this

04:43

spring so they will have a chance to

04:44

make up for it I do want to mention uh

04:46

one other guy before we move on Cody

04:48

shraer out of Missouri a really great

04:50

Underdog Story Ryan you were talking

04:51

about stories he did pick up a hamstring

04:54

injury while running the 40 so a tough

04:56

break for a kid with a lot of potential

04:57

we'll keep an eye on that espec

04:59

especially with how the running back

05:00

Market is changing in the NFL let's dive

05:03

into the wide receiver group gentlemen

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this is a stacked group of receivers

05:07

from teams to choose from but we're

05:09

putting a spotlight on one Rick I'm

05:11

emphasizing one player each for you guys

05:15

now typically the most talked about

05:16

drill here I got my list of 10 we have

05:18

like yeah we got two hours right because

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I have a list of 10 guys I kind of want

05:22

to read my reports on what's that my

05:24

producer is saying we could only do one

05:25

we can only do one Rick follow

05:28

directions but no on a more serious note

05:31

no go

05:33

ahead yeah no uh and they're in the

05:35

process of doing their drills and

05:37

catching right now uh and the

05:38

quarterbacks are throwing but uh Xavier

05:41

Legette the receiver from South Carolina

05:43

who I was really impressed with during

05:45

the season he was a vertical threat he's

05:47

221 rounds and ran a 439 was explosive

05:52

in all the vertical jumps this kid's

05:54

going to be a playmaker at the next

05:55

level some question at 221 could he run

05:59

that that fast and he proved that today

06:01

so his draft draft stock is going ahead

06:04

and going up and I try to go back and

06:06

look at Debo Samuel about the same size

06:09

but Debo ran a 448 if this kid can have

06:11

the same success that Debo Samuel had

06:14

he's going to have a great NFL career

06:16

hey Haley fun fact gu you threw Xavier L

06:18

the football some guy named Spencer

06:19

Rattler just putting that out there for

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you Rick so thank shout out to Spencer

06:22

how can he be a winner he hasn't done

06:23

anything yet he's in the second group

06:25

tonight he's a winner in the Ryan Wilson

06:26

Hall of Fame as my as for my guy Rick

06:29

I'm going with Adon Mitchell a similar

06:31

type player in that he's a deep

06:32

downfield threat but what I loved about

06:34

Adon Mitchell out of Texas was his

06:35

ability to run the short and

06:37

intermediate routs so when we talked

06:38

about him in the fall we were amazed at

06:40

how much wiggle he had for someone that

06:42

size now he came out I think his

06:43

vertical was 39 a half inches which a

06:45

little higher than mine and yours

06:46

combined then he ran a 435 and I had to

06:49

double check that is in fact a four

06:51

period 35 and that is absolutely

06:53

motoring and that's motoring on a team

06:55

that also had jaavan Sanders the tight

06:57

end and Xavier worthy we haven't seen

06:58

him run yet but that could be a similar

07:00

time for him but I feel like and I want

07:03

to hear what you think about this Adonna

07:05

Mitchells in the first round is Xavier

07:06

Legette sneak into the first round now

07:08

no I think he's still going to be in the

07:10

top of the second but I can see Don

07:12

Mitchell uh sneaking into the First with

07:14

the way he ran today and you have to

07:16

remember he's a little bit of a one-year

07:17

wonder he transferred in from Georgia

07:20

this was a big year didn't have much of

07:21

an impact on that Georgia roster but

07:24

this year uh broke out when he

07:25

transferred to Texas and last year you

07:27

mentioned Jaylen height who we talked to

07:28

on the stage the wi you're Wonder at

07:30

Tennessee there were some first round

07:31

Buzz around this time ended up going in

07:33

round three is he a better Prospect

07:34

coming out than jayen just because of

07:35

the size and I know jayen H was fast

07:38

this kid's big and fast and F yeah

07:40

faster I believe you're in a four four

07:41

last year Jaylen High did Haley I wonder

07:43

if he was wearing Sketchers like Rick

07:45

Spielman is that may have helped his

07:47

performance a little bit where Rick

07:48

showing off the drip there he's making

07:50

your shoes look bad Ryan what's up with

07:53

that let's keep it rolling here we're

07:55

going to continue to talk about the wide

07:57

receivers uh specifically aent gentleman

07:59

that did not talk in Indianapolis that

08:02

is Marvin Harrison Jr he also did not

08:04

work out today he says he doesn't plan

08:06

on working out at his pro day because

08:08

the resume speaks for himself now Rick

08:11

we had an opportunity to speak about

08:12

this earlier in the week and you had

08:13

some opinions on Harrison's decision to

08:15

not speak or to work out so now that

08:17

you've seen some of these other guys go

08:19

out and put on good performances how are

08:21

you feeling about Harrison going

08:23

forward I I just in general some of

08:26

these kids that don't work out here and

08:27

I may be old school but you get paid to

08:30

come here it's your you're on a job

08:32

interview and some of these guys in my

08:34

opinion I think the agents are trying to

08:35

take over this event whether I'm right

08:37

or wrong that's my opinion and the

08:40

players listen to the agents Marvin

08:42

Harrison Jr no question that he's a top

08:45

receiver coming out he's done everything

08:47

you need to see on tape he did work out

08:49

last spring at the pro day yeah um but I

08:52

still think guys that are not doing

08:53

their physicals or guys that are not

08:55

participating are they putting their

08:57

self ahead of the team and what happens

09:00

when they do end up on a roster do you

09:02

still see this selfish attitude that

09:04

you're seeing at the combine uh when

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they become uh part of an NFL

09:08

organization I know Marvin Harrison Jr

09:11

is a great kid I spent some time in the

09:13

fall with them but a lot of times these

09:15

kids are taking advice from people that

09:17

aren't giving them the best advice all

09:19

right Rick I'll ask you again one last

09:21

time before we pack up here if you're

09:22

the Arizona Cardinals at four are you

09:23

taking Marvin Harrison Jr he's an

09:25

exception to the rule there you go Haley

09:28

uh Rick I want to follow up just really

09:30

quick here just so that viewers at home

09:32

can understand too when it comes to guys

09:33

like Marvin Harrison Jr who do go to the

09:36

combine they don't speak they don't work

09:38

out what is the benefit of them then

09:39

being there in

09:42

Indianapolis well you'd hope they'd

09:44

participate in the physicals and I don't

09:46

know if he did the physicals or not I

09:47

know he did weigh and get measured I

09:49

know he did interviews with teams at

09:52

night so that's a critical part of this

09:54

process as well for these players to go

09:56

to these individual formal work uh

09:59

interviews as they like to say they get

10:01

an opportunity to visit with the teams

10:03

the teams get to know them as people I

10:05

just don't like and I understand

10:07

sometimes if you're hurt you can't

10:08

participate in everything but the reason

10:11

this combine was put together was so all

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32 teams can get together they can all

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get the Medicals on these kids and the

10:18

one thing that really you have to think

10:20

about what a three or four years from

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now one of these kids end up getting

10:24

traded or he becomes a free agent we

10:26

always referred back to the medical that

10:29

we had at the combine and then when we

10:31

bring him in on physicals just to update

10:33

that so you get a baseline on all these

10:36

kids that's why the combine was created

10:39

and when they're start not participating

10:42

in the most important parts of this

10:44

combine then I think it's just

10:46

absolutely wrong all right some other

10:48

guys who didn't compete include those

10:50

top three prospects in the class they

10:51

also happen to be quarterbacks of course

10:53

we're talking about Caleb Williams

10:54

Heisman Trophy winner Jaden Daniels and

10:56

Drake May so let's talk about what's

10:58

next for these guys Rick as our resident

11:00

GM what do you need to see out of them

11:03

if anything ahead of the draft coming up

11:05

to make up for them not working out at

11:07

Lucas Oil

11:08

today yeah well everybody will go to

11:10

their Pro days and I know these are the

11:12

top three so um they'll probably throw

11:15

it their Pro days it'll be interesting I

11:16

heard Jaden Daniels I don't know that

11:18

for a fact but heard he didn't even

11:20

weigh and measure while he was here so

11:22

to me it's always what are you trying to

11:24

hide if you weigh 180 lbs you're 180 lbs

11:27

if you run a 46 here or at your pro day

11:30

what's the difference guys aren't going

11:32

to get faster at their pro day but

11:34

people do want to see these guys throw

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that's what they going to get paid to do

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for a living and you tell me you can't

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come to the combine and just participate

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and throw but again I don't think it's

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always the kids sometime their business

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uh Associates I'll just put are advising

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them not to do that and they're in my

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opinion again I may be wrong I think

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they're trying to take over this event

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instead of having teams this is a team

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event a football event and that's what

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it should be when these kids come and

12:03

you know what a year ago Rick we were at

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the Ohio State pro day and this is

12:05

slightly different in that Dean Jones

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The Enormous right tackle refused to get

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weighed and immediately people thought

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he weighed over 400 pounds and that

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probably had some effect on his draft

12:14

stock end up going to the fourth round

12:15

if everyone knew that he weighed 375

12:17

maybe gets drafted earlier makes more

12:18

money now Jay Daniels is going to fall

12:20

to the third round but instead of maybe

12:21

going two or three he goes five or six

12:24

simply because we don't know everything

12:25

we need to know about him right and the

12:26

biggest thing on him was what's his

12:29

weight because everybody thinks he is

12:31

too thin right now or needs to add some

12:33

bulk so step on the scale let us see

12:35

what you are we'll figure it out as you

12:37

go it's not going to affect your draft

12:39

stock just do what you're asked to do

12:41

Haley it's like Ryan for example okay

12:44

he's going on a job interview and they

12:46

ask him to go in front of the camera and

12:49

read one of his college reports to

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evaluate a player and he says well I'll

12:54

come in and talk to the bosses but I'm

12:56

not going to do anything on camera and

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I'm not going to read your reports is

13:00

that right or wrong I think it's wrong I

13:03

was just getting ready to say how I was

13:04

so proud of you guys for getting through

13:06

the segment without going back and forth

13:08

at each other and there is Rick Spielman

13:10

throwing his Jabs at Ryan

13:13

Wilson guys you are I am just using an

13:16

example he just happens to be next to me

13:18

an example we love to see it Rick

13:21

Spielman and Ryan Wilson have been

13:22

holding it down all week long in

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Indianapolis keeping us updated with

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that combine gentlemen we appreciate it

13:28

as always reminder you can catch more of

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Rick and Ryan on their podcast with the

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first pick it's been popping all week

13:35

long as they keep you informed with

13:36

these prospects as we get closer to the

13:38

NFL draft you can scan that QR code on

13:40

your screen or listen in wherever you

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get your

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